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PostPosted: 18:21 - 05 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The lorry park at M20 Junction 11 is nothing to do with Brexit, it's to do with having a neighbouring country full of strikey socialists and Gimmedats.

There are several other lorry parks, including another already at the Stop 24 services, but they're not large enough to cope when Le Po-Po allow the Gimmedats to storm the ferries or tunnel.

It needs building because the M20 being shut for days causes chaos, but much like all the other bullshit coming from the Beeb, it has nothing to do with Brexit.


Brexit hasn't happened yet, the terms haven't changed, so why would these lorry parks be needed, yet
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 05 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The lorry park at M20 Junction 11 is nothing to do with Brexit, it's to do with having a neighbouring country full of strikey socialists and Gimmedats.

There are several other lorry parks, including another already at the Stop 24 services, but they're not large enough to cope when Le Po-Po allow the Gimmedats to storm the ferries or tunnel.

It needs building because the M20 being shut for days causes chaos, but much like all the other bullshit coming from the Beeb, it has nothing to do with Brexit.


Brexit hasn't happened yet, the terms haven't changed, so why would these lorry parks be needed, yet


You'll be next on the enemy list. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 05 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You'll be next on the enemy list. Laughing


Think my name was first on the list
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 06 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBC "reality checks" the claim that we trade with "the rest of the world" under WTO rules.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41859691

Lies! LIEEEEES!

"This is wrong, the UK trades with only 24 countries under WTO rules only. With 68 others it has, as part of the EU, agreements either fully or partly in place which enable trade on better terms"

OK, and of course, all countries are equal. It doesn't matter which countries we trade with under WTO, and which ones the EU has managed to secure some sort of trade deal with, right?

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/11AD3/production/_98630427_wto_rules_640-nc.png

"The EU - and therefore the UK as a member - has trade deals with other countries, like South Korea, Mexico and recently Canada."

South Korea - Not in force.

Mexico - Not in force.

Canada - Not in force.

I do so love when the EUrophiles try to big up the benefits of being a vassal of Berlin, and succeed only in revealing its stunning incompetence and inertia.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 06 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are more than likely referring to trade volume.
China and USA trade alone would be a huge percentage of non EU trade, so yeah pretty much anything outside of the EU is on WTO rates.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 07 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's get back to the negotiations shall we?

I am still very skeptical about any December deal, but to be fair UK juts has published EU citizens rights future scheme.

I have looked at it and it looks fair: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/more-detail-provided-on-new-settled-status-for-eu-citizens

Given the fact that there are rumors about £60bln bill talks the only problem left is the NI border.

Wait for it Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 07 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Impact studies released...


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PostPosted: 16:49 - 07 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

UK wellbeing rises despite "after" Brexit vote. Clapping
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 07 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:

"The document also sets out that applicants will be asked to declare any criminal convictions and be checked against UK security databases. This is a reasonable measure to keep the country safe from those who have abused our hospitality"

When are you being deported?
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 07 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
Let's get back to the negotiations shall we?

I am still very skeptical about any December deal, but to be fair UK juts has published EU citizens rights future scheme.

I have looked at it and it looks fair: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/more-detail-provided-on-new-settled-status-for-eu-citizens

Given the fact that there are rumors about £60bln bill talks the only problem left is the NI border.

Wait for it Laughing


Naive, alsorts of crap to be dealt with yet thats been given over the Eu to do

VAT on purchases across the borders will be the next thing on the list.
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 07 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob Fzs wrote:


VAT on purchases across the borders will be the next thing on the list.


On the subject of VAT did anybody else see this review?


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Britain's VAT system is set for major reform after a review commissioned by Phillip Hammond found the current rules are hurting the economy.

The review, carried out by Government advisers at the Office for Tax Simplification, found that the current threshold above which businesses pay VAT is discouraging small businesses from growing.

The report, due to be published next week, will lay out options which could to be used to create a windfall for the Treasury in Phillip Hammond's Autumn Budget latest this month.

One of the suggested options would see a million extra businesses and self-employed people having to charge customers an extra 20 per cent for goods and services for the first time.

It comes after reports that the Chancellor is planning a substantial tax giveaway to help "Generation Rent", suggesting new ways to increase revenue through tax may also be being looked at....

More ..https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph/20171104/281513636421195



Reduce the VAT threshold to £26,000 Shocked. That would bury many small businesses over night.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 07 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Reduce the VAT threshold to £26,000 Shocked. That would bury many small businesses over night.

Given the source, are we seeing pre-emptive EU wide harmonisation? Thinking
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 07 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Val wrote:

"The document also sets out that applicants will be asked to declare any criminal convictions and be checked against UK security databases. This is a reasonable measure to keep the country safe from those who have abused our hospitality"

When are you being deported?


I really hate to disappoint you here Ste, but I have passed many security and CRB checks already as part of my job.

Can't tell you what is the job unless I hire you or kill your cat Laughing

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PostPosted: 09:24 - 09 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Rob Fzs wrote:


VAT on purchases across the borders will be the next thing on the list.


On the subject of VAT did anybody else see this review?


Quote:
Britain's VAT system is set for major reform after a review commissioned by Phillip Hammond found the current rules are hurting the economy.

The review, carried out by Government advisers at the Office for Tax Simplification, found that the current threshold above which businesses pay VAT is discouraging small businesses from growing.

The report, due to be published next week, will lay out options which could to be used to create a windfall for the Treasury in Phillip Hammond's Autumn Budget latest this month.

One of the suggested options would see a million extra businesses and self-employed people having to charge customers an extra 20 per cent for goods and services for the first time.

It comes after reports that the Chancellor is planning a substantial tax giveaway to help "Generation Rent", suggesting new ways to increase revenue through tax may also be being looked at....

More ..https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph/20171104/281513636421195



Reduce the VAT threshold to £26,000 Shocked. That would bury many small businesses over night.


Hasn't stopped them killing town centers with epic rates etc though has it

the 'tories' at the moment must be the most economically illiterate we've had in some years, wont be long before Corbyn gets in because people think, well if we're gonna be taxed like fuck anyway, while still getting in more debt, we might aswell have some goodies along the way
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob Fzs wrote:
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Select the WTO option and you spend 2 days waiting to board at Calais.

Laughing


Do European truck operators then have to absorb the cost?
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hasn't stopped them killing town centers with epic rates etc though has it

the 'tories' at the moment must be the most economically illiterate we've had in some years, wont be long before Corbyn gets in because people think, well if we're gonna be taxed like fuck anyway, while still getting in more debt, we might aswell have some goodies along the way


Ive thought for a long time that there should be a compulsory purchase of town centre premises then rent them out at peppercorn rents with low rates for locals. It always amazes me abroad how many small independent shops there are in their towns and cities while ours are either wastlands of boarded up shopfronts or megacorp chains.
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Ive thought for a long time that there should be a compulsory purchase of town centre premises then rent them out at peppercorn rents with low rates for locals. It always amazes me abroad how many small independent shops there are in their towns and cities while ours are either wastlands of boarded up shopfronts or megacorp chains.



Well aside from the fact that business rates make up a large proportion of local government income it won't fly. Esp since 2012 when councils can keep 50% of business rates.

Councils guard it heavily. This is why they really don't like commercial properties being changed into domestic or residential properties.


But tbh they don't really need to. Give it a couple years and the high street will be toast as most shopping will be delivered to homes.


One of the few reasons needing something immediately has ceased to be relevant as you can get expensive 4 hour deliveries. Why would you go into a town or city centre anyway? First you have to spend a long time in traffic to get there. Then pay for parking and risk tickets and or vehicle damage.

You then have to navigate the urine soaked, heroin needle streets filled with homeless people and violent chavs. All to pay more for stuff.
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You then have to navigate the urine soaked, heroin needle streets filled with homeless people and violent chavs. All to pay more for stuff.


I'd suggest moving house would be better in the long run.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
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Ive thought for a long time that there should be a compulsory purchase of town centre premises then rent them out at peppercorn rents with low rates for locals. It always amazes me abroad how many small independent shops there are in their towns and cities while ours are either wastlands of boarded up shopfronts or megacorp chains.



Well aside from the fact that business rates make up a large proportion of local government income it won't fly. Esp since 2012 when councils can keep 50% of business rates.

Councils guard it heavily. This is why they really don't like commercial properties being changed into domestic or residential properties.


But tbh they don't really need to. Give it a couple years and the high street will be toast as most shopping will be delivered to homes.


One of the few reasons needing something immediately has ceased to be relevant as you can get expensive 4 hour deliveries. Why would you go into a town or city centre anyway? First you have to spend a long time in traffic to get there. Then pay for parking and risk tickets and or vehicle damage.

You then have to navigate the urine soaked, heroin needle streets filled with homeless people and violent chavs. All to pay more for stuff.


It's a funny old world, some people are fedup of traffic, yet they complain when towns shut down to fund their over zealously funded public services, the money has to come from somewhere

i mentioned to one guy about doing anything possibly for town centre's as he was a Nimby arse who didn't just want any old shop being allowed to setup, i said you will be lucky to have any shops with the likes of Amazon in a couple of years, in which his reply was, he wouldnt shop with them because they're tax dodgers, to which i replied to, that doesn't stop him talking this shite on facebook Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to get back on track, but it seems like we're moving into the final stages of our token maidenly struggle before giving Brussels the political-financial bareback ficki ficki that it's been demanding from the start - with the possible exception of ceding Norn Mickland to it, worse luck.

£50 billion, give or take (mostly give) a few tens of billions more, plus ongoing commitments, remaining subject to Strasbourg's ravings, accepting an unlimited swarm of economic migrants, continuing to pay for their kids abroad... that's a funny looking Brexit to me.

I'm actually hoping that Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition manages to force a vote on the divorce surrender, and knocks it back. At this point "chaos ensues" looks like the least bad option.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 10 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brexit means breakfast.

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We should identify the business interests of all the Bruxelles mobsters and then quietly make it known to those businesses that if their pal (junkers etc) doesn't play ball then we will do everything we can by hook and crook to screw their businesses up anywhere they might try and do business now and forever. We have a reputation for being cu#t5 so let's use it.
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We should identify the business interests of all the Bruxelles mobsters and then quietly make it known to those businesses that if their pal (junkers etc) doesn't play ball then we will do everything we can by hook and crook to screw their businesses up anywhere they might try and do business now and forever. We have a reputation for being cu#t5 so let's use it.

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