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PostPosted: 17:00 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We'll use marginal land to grow hardier grains, like barley and oats.

Cows will need to give way to upland sheep farming.

We'll make more efficient use of their carcasses.

Haggis: the food of the future.


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PostPosted: 17:23 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

MDP you talk of supply and demand but I'm not sure you understand what this means. This only works if ordinary people have enough money to pay higher prices... Farmers won't make food cheaper because people are poorer if enough can still afford to pay.

The start of the decline will be a rise in the number of people using food-banks....
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
MDP you talk of supply and demand but I'm not sure you understand what this means. This only works if ordinary people have enough money to pay higher prices... Farmers won't make food cheaper because people are poorer if enough can still afford to pay.

The start of the decline will be a rise in the number of people using food-banks....



I'll give you some advice. Mpd isn't somebody worth debating. He's a liar (ask him for an apology for lying to us and you'll get blocked).

He is best described as a man of straw. He will lie, deny change positions and make things up in order to win an argument.

He will then absorb the arguments you used to break him and pretend these arguments are his own.

He does this because he's not very intelligent.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The reason for voting leave for a lot of people.


Sure but this plays into the revolution argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAxJb1v-SnU

A lot of people don't rise up because they look around and see things they don't want to lose. It's comfortable there is milk in the fridge and rising up will rock this boat.

Rocking the boat may change things the outcome may be good it may well be bad but there is always a big price to pay before getting to the utopia or hell.

A lot of people cheered quite loudly on 1 October 1949. They perhaps wouldn't have cheered so loudly when 15 years later 90 million were dead.

Nothing has happened yet but a lot of those benefits have been proven pretty much to be wishful thinking.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
panrider_uk wrote:
The reason for voting leave for a lot of people.


Sure


That'll do Smile
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Itchy wrote:
Because some things are more important than profits.

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PostPosted: 18:18 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Rob Fzs wrote:
Like in Zimbabwe?



The thing is all the iffy stuff that is condemned today happened in England a couple hundred years ago with the various Inclosure acts the New Forests were pretty much land grabs too.

Doesn't that confirm it's incredibly backwards? It's a bit like the acid attack/Victorian London argument, or people marrying their cousins, or killing people believing them to be witches... all stuff we 'got over' but seem to have re-imported.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone point out to the soft cunt Donkers that Brexiteers have whinged for the best part of 40 years to get their second referendum. Y'know, after the first one back in the 70's.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
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The thing is all the iffy stuff that is condemned today happened in England a couple hundred years ago with the various Inclosure acts the New Forests were pretty much land grabs too.

Doesn't that confirm it's incredibly backwards? It's a bit like the acid attack/Victorian London argument, or people marrying their cousins, or killing people believing them to be witches... all stuff we 'got over' but seem to have re-imported.


I don't recall acid attacks in Henry Tudor's time. Unless you count the tar off the castle walls, I suppose.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meanwhile at the commission...

Jean-Claude Juncker‏
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She is awake, the Sleeping Beauty of the Lisbon Treaty: Permanent Structured Cooperation is happening. I welcome the operational steps taken today by Member States to lay the foundations of a European #DefenceUnion. Our security cannot be outsourced. https://bit.ly/2iRUfo5
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
Can someone point out to the soft cunt Donkers that Brexiteers have whinged for the best part of 40 years to get their second referendum. Y'know, after the first one back in the 70's.

Why don't you go and ask your mummy why she voted to enter a single superstate that decides most all of our laws, manufacturing and agricultural policy and in which any of 700 million people can rock up in Dover, snap their fingers and bark "House, benefits, gibs," in whatever jibba-jabba pseudo-language they like?
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
Can someone point out to the soft cunt Donkers that Brexiteers have whinged for the best part of 40 years to get their second referendum. Y'know, after the first one back in the 70's.

Why don't you go and ask your mummy why she voted to enter a single superstate that decides most all of our laws, manufacturing and agricultural policy and in which any of 700 million people can rock up in Dover, snap their fingers and bark "House, benefits, gibs," in whatever jibba-jabba pseudo-language they like?


My mummy was about 7, so she wouldn't have voted. She's a whore anyway, so would have been too busy getting ploughed by immigrants (probably).
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read a letter from Treeza wishing me a Merry Christmas for Brexit and saying she still value and loves me ere:

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2017/10/theresa-may-s-letter-eu-citizens-annotated

There will be spectacular decorations this year people.

Christmas is coming...literally Laughing

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PostPosted: 22:53 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
Can someone point out to the soft cunt Donkers that Brexiteers have whinged for the best part of 40 years to get their second referendum. Y'know, after the first one back in the 70's.

Did they? I recall Mr Farage saying he's campaigned for 20 years, and I know some of it stems from the early 90s when Thatcher was ousted.

Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:

I don't recall acid attacks in Henry Tudor's time.

Back then you just beheaded the bitch.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
Can someone point out to the soft cunt Donkers that Brexiteers have whinged for the best part of 40 years to get their second referendum. Y'know, after the first one back in the 70's.

Did they? I recall Mr Farage saying he's campaigned for 20 years, and I know some of it stems from the early 90s when Thatcher was ousted.

Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:

I don't recall acid attacks in Henry Tudor's time.

Back then you just beheaded the bitch.


As much as I don't like generally citing Wiki, at least it has sauces that I don't need to cite, as it's all done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euroscepticism_in_the_United_Kingdom#From_1975_to_1997
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PostPosted: 01:40 - 12 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
As much as I don't like generally citing Wiki, at least it has sauces that I don't need to cite, as it's all done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euroscepticism_in_the_United_Kingdom#From_1975_to_1997

Yeah I'm not seeing Brexiteers whinging for 40 years. Labour were against it but they're not the same people 'whinging' now? It seems to backup the (rough) figures I mentioned.
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PostPosted: 03:51 - 12 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you think the anti-EU type only started with Farage?
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 12 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the shitty jobs will be filled by our commonwealth cousins .
Mainly Bangladeshis who will quite rightly want to bring their family with them.
The nhs will have the gaps filled with Nigerians who are currently queuing to pay 50p for their bogus qualifications.
20 years time their offspring will still be Bangladeshis and Nigerians unlike the current eu people who produce English people.
Nigel and his fellow golf players will still fucking moan about the EU.
No politicians will be harmed in the creation of this fiasco.
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 12 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Because some things are more important than profits.

Food security I would imagine is a pretty high priority. A lot of people mention sovereignty, food security is a pretty big part of this.


Until it's needed for specific food, grow something else that's wanted. The Dutch do a good line in tulip bulbs so do that with some other flower. You don't have to grow food all the time, you just have to be productive. Subsidies are not the answer.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 12 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hungary and Poland have defied the rest of the EU by not taking a single refugee under the scheme, which aimed to relocate about 120,000 refugees, mainly Syrians. The Czech republic has taken in only 12. All three countries were referred to the European court of justice last week for failing to implement the policy, the usual procedure for flouting EU rules.

Despite the backlash against the emergency scheme, the European commission proposed making quotas a permanent feature of EU law in 2016. Under its proposal, countries that refuse to take part in a “corrective allocation mechanism” to take the pressure off member states bearing the brunt would have to pay a “solidarity contribution” of €250,000 (£220,000) per asylum seeker.

Who wouldn't want some of that.....
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 12 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
So you think the anti-EU type only started with Farage?

Sometimes I wonder why I bother typing words...

M.C wrote:
I know some of it stems from the early 90s when Thatcher was ousted.
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 12 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
So you think the anti-EU type only started with Farage?

Sometimes I wonder why I bother typing words...

M.C wrote:
I know some of it stems from the early 90s when Thatcher was ousted.


And sometimes I don't know why you don't bother reading that which is in front of you.

Thatcher was ousted in 1990. You won't accept that Labour were formerly more anti-EU than the Tories, back in the 70's and 80's, but that's Ok, because you only recognise it when it became cool in the 90's, and Farage and his ilk jumped on the bandwagon?
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 12 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all May's thing is the broken pledge.

May just said Irish border agreement may not be binding & UK won’t pay divorce bill without a trade deal (despite pledging the opposite in the last minute EU progress deal):

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/11/britain-will-not-pay-penny-leave-european-union-no-deal-theresa/

Also Davis saying that the withdrawal agreement is not binding.

Good strategy. Always be untrusty during negotiations and do backsies.

As a result of the renege, EU leaders have ruled out 'preliminary and preparatory discussions' on a trade deal in the New Year. All talks now put off until March 22-23 2018 summit.

https://www.ft.com/content/674623ac-df1e-11e7-8f9f-de1c2175f5ce

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PostPosted: 21:49 - 12 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

No deal incoming then

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