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Itchy
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 17 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rob Fzs wrote:


Academia is stuffed full of this sort of person, they have a vision, and then they make the stat's fit the narrative, Ball's and especially his wife, wont be turned.



You sound more like Mpd every single day. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 17 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Itchy wrote:
Sure, but is anything he said actually wrong?

How about you look in your crystal ball and let us know? I'd use mine, but they're apparently only issued to Remoaners.

Us sunlit uplandeers prefer the audacity of hope.
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 17 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Us sunlit uplandeers prefer the audacity of hope.



Cool I didn't think you were the religious type.

So effectively you're just praying. That of course works all the time. Just like those Americans send hope and prayers to mass shooting victims. Mass shootings dropped to nothing because of the power of hope and prayer. Very Happy

Me? I don't need a crystal ball. I just look at past indicators of performance and use them as indicative predictions of future performance.

Kent Lorry parks 2 years of wrangling and nothing happened.

317 days left and you're saying that everything will be ready with absolutely no evidence that it will be other than hope and prayers?
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 17 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
May has been to a Sofia EU meeting.

Here is something you will not see in the UK news today.

UK influence in the EU in pictures:

https://i.imgur.com/XHlBsSZ.png
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 17 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Val wrote:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4993570/bulgarias-black-belt-pm-tells-rest-of-eu-they-cannot-afford-to-let-britain-crash-out-without-a-post-brexit-deal/


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he warned that it would be dire for an underprepared EU.


Insightful. UK critics say we won't be ready but both sides are indulging in a staring competition. The EU seems to have no plans on how to go on without one of its few net contributors.

Edit: Oh, you changed it to a picture of the PM on the end of a row. So what? Who's that woman in the top row, far left, barely visible. Make something of that.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 17 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Val wrote:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4993570/bulgarias-black-belt-pm-tells-rest-of-eu-they-cannot-afford-to-let-britain-crash-out-without-a-post-brexit-deal/


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he warned that it would be dire for an underprepared EU.


Insightful. UK critics say we won't be ready but both sides are indulging in a staring competition. The EU seems to have no plans on how to go on without one of its few net contributors.

Edit: Oh, you changed it to a picture of the PM on the end of a row. So what? Who's that woman in the top row, far left, barely visible. Make something of that.


Looks to me like there's a lot of under-represented wimmins there. Obviously sexist.
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Middle row, third from left. Bloke staring at the sky. What's the story?
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 17 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Front row, third from left. Think he has morning glory.
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PostPosted: 08:21 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Itchy wrote:
So effectively you're just praying.

But to Baby Jesus, who is The Way. It's in a book and everything.


Itchy wrote:
317 days left and you're saying that everything will be ready with absolutely no evidence that it will be other than hope and prayers?

Please be sensible. We're not Brexiting, and everything will continue exactly as before except we'll be paying more, with no representation.

I just look at past indicators of performance and use them as indicative predictions of future performance.
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Itchy wrote:
Sure, but is anything he said actually wrong? Or are you going to play ad hom?


My reply was simply based on your position of "Harvard are the best and "their" paper which has not gone under review nor approval must be believed as an accurate predictor of the future" and of "...that (not) crap poly that anybody can get into".
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Live by the appeal to authority, die by the ad hominem.

Fallacies up the bum.


Academic authority:

A fair and balanced news source wrote:
Professor Michael Arthur from University College London, who chairs the Russell Group of elite universities EU group, had claimed that UK seats of learning would plunge from second best in the world league table on research behind America to 20th.

But pressed on the claim during a Brexit committee hearing in the Commons, Professor Arthur said: “I will confess I plucked a number out of the air.

“I don’t know but I do fear we could slip down those international league tables.”

So terrorscared, such therapyneed.

Hang on, there's more.

Duke Rees-Mogg of Earl wrote:
It is surprising that a highly esteemed professor just makes things up as he goes along when appearing in from of a House of Common select committee.

It shows the lack of intellectual rigour of Project Fear and a disdain for democratic accountability.

Sick burn, blud.

A fair and balanced source wrote:
But pressed on a series of issues by the committee, Professor Arthur was forced to admit that leaving the EU means that universities can charge higher fees from European students and will no longer discriminate against students from the rest of the world including poorer students from Africa.

He also admitted that despite claims EU students will stop applying to come to Britain because of the uncertainty of Brexit there had been a 15 per cent increase at his own university this year.

That needs to be on the side of a bus.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Itchy wrote:
Rob Fzs wrote:


Academia is stuffed full of this sort of person, they have a vision, and then they make the stat's fit the narrative, Ball's and especially his wife, wont be turned.



You sound more like Mpd every single day. Very Happy


So you disagree?
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Val wrote:
May has been to a Sofia EU meeting.

Here is something you will not see in the UK news today.

UK influence in the EU in pictures:

https://i.imgur.com/XHlBsSZ.png


This is retarded, what influence has Viktor Orban got in the EU? yet on the front row, i think you should step away from politics if this is the childish shit you can only make noise with.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/brexit-poll-english-voters-rather-lose-scotland-than-gibraltar-1-4741280 ad blocking paywall bollocks. Rolling Eyes

https://www.thenational.scot/news/16232803.English_voters_would_rather_sacrifice_Scotland_than_Gibraltar_for_Brexit/

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PostPosted: 13:38 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/brexit-poll-english-voters-rather-lose-scotland-than-gibraltar-1-4741280 ad blocking paywall bollocks. Rolling Eyes

https://www.thenational.scot/news/16232803.English_voters_would_rather_sacrifice_Scotland_than_Gibraltar_for_Brexit/

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Alternative headline: "Most English want to seize the opportunity to get rid of all of their whinging parasitical provinces."

You should do it.

Gonnae no dae it.
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 18 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
England is never going to be free from Scotchland. Sad

They screwed up their referendum and now the short, ginger poison dwarf who's already taken away their cheap booze is wanting to take their pizzas away.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2644146/scotland-pizza-nicola-sturgeon-ban-two-for-one-deals-hilarious-reaction/
https://www.thenational.scot/news/16229138.The_internet_reacts_to_Jamie_Oliver_s_2-4-1_pizza_ban/

She must be losing supporters every day. Laughing
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Someone should put a tax on her addiction to prohibition, we'd be minted.

Hey, remember when the ECJ defended our freedoms by ruling minimum alcohol pricing was against free trade freedoms and prohibited it?

Oh, wait, I mean, prohibited it unless scotch.gov reaaaally wanted to do it.

Which was nice.
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we could, but it's the victors get to choose the name.
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https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-statement/Commons/2018-05-21/HCWS698

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DduJW-JVMAAhh55?format=jpg


M20 from Leeds Castle to Ashford Kent is to become a gigantic lorry park.

Somebody who complains about travelling up and down the M20 is going to have more complaints Very Happy it couldn't have happened to a more deserving person Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 21 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm wondering if we're going to see a rash of ministers feeling an urge to spend more time with their families / mistresses / rent boys when the full realisation of what they've got to do hits home, with the clock ticking down and a paucity of resources since Hammond has promised a hundred billion or so to Ze Project.
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I can't find it now (must have been in his edited post) but Val claimed Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg had snubbed the UK Parliament in favour of the mighty EU. Well, it looks like they did what they do best.

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Mr Zuckerberg apologised for Facebook's tools being used "for harm".

But his testimony did not please all MEPs at the meeting, some of whom felt he had dodged their questions.

One leading UK politician later said the session at the European Parliament had been a "missed opportunity".

"Unfortunately the format of questioning allowed Mr Zuckerberg to cherry-pick his responses and not respond to each individual point," said Damian Collins, chair of the UK Parliament's Digital Culture Media and Sport Committee.

The format was very different from that of Mr Zuckerberg's testimony to US lawmakers in April. While the US politicians took turns to cross-examine the Facebook chief in a series of back-and-forth exchanges, the leaders of the European Parliament's various political groups each asked several questions apiece. The tech chief had to wait until they were all delivered before responding.

Mr Zuckerberg spent 22 minutes going through the huge number of questions put to him during the session and was able to pick and choose which to give answers to.

Several of the politicians expressed frustration at this, and one accused Mr Zuckerberg of having "asked for this format for a reason".

A spokesman for Facebook later contacted the BBC to say it had not chosen the structure. This was subsequently confirmed by the parliament's president, Antonio Tajani.

In a follow-up press conference, Mr Tajani added that the MEPs had been aware Mr Zuckerberg's time was limited yet had decided to use up much of the allotted period speaking themselves.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44210800
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 23 May 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
I'm wondering if we're going to see a rash of ministers feeling an urge to spend more time with their families / mistresses / rent boys when the full realisation of what they've got to do hits home, with the clock ticking down and a paucity of resources since Hammond has promised a hundred billion or so to Ze Project.


The ones with any sense of self-preservation will do so, with alacrity.

The longer they linger, the more the stench of the impending brexit disaster will hang about them.
No one will take the poison chalice from May and she has repeatedly proven that she will not grasp either the nettle of actually preparing for a hard brexit nor the thistle of trying to spin turning the UK into a Norway-esque EEA participant.
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Mmm, Duke Rees of Mogg is making less than fully supportive noises, but there aren't 48 decent Tories left to trigger a leadership contest.

I think he knows it, and Sharia knows it, and she's becoming increasingly emboldened about kicking any sort of actual Brexit into the long grass.

Wut do? Defect to the DUP? Thinking
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Rogerborg wrote:
Mmm, Duke Rees of Mogg is making less than fully supportive noises, but there aren't 48 decent Tories left to trigger a leadership contest.

I think he knows it, and Sharia knows it, and she's becoming increasingly emboldened about kicking any sort of actual Brexit into the long grass.

Wut do? Defect to the DUP? Thinking


Mogg? Defect? To the Micks? It'll be a cold day in hell before that happens.

If he is as smart as they say I suspect he'll bide his time. While it *might* be salvageable at this point, the longer he waits, the harder it will be. Smart move is to let May take the flack for the flaming turd Brexit is shaping up to be and move in after to build.....whatever his weird esoteric views tell him the tories and the country should be.
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