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Betrayal intensifies.
This staunchly Remoan Parliament will get a Meaningful Vote on any "deal" that our Remoan premier "negotiates".
Now they're demanding that when (not if) they reject that deal (thus leaving us with de facto No Deal) that they (en masse, and Remoaners nearly all) will get to decide What Do.
But there will be no remit nor mechanism nor time for them to "negotiate" anything else, or for us to proceed with a No Deal outcome since we've done nothing to prepare for that scenario.
So how could What Do possibly be anything other than beg and plead and bribe to renege / re-accede / continue with no changes, until they can finagle another referendum or just kick the whole issue down the road over and over again until it's simply forgotten about.
Notice the lack of a question mark at the end of that rhetorical question. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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The hope now has to be that the EU just collapses so there's nothing to exit ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Suntan Sid wrote: | Rogerborg wrote: | But there will be no remit nor mechanism nor time for them to "negotiate" anything else, or for us to proceed with a No Deal outcome since we've done nothing to prepare for that scenario. |
As someone who sits in the "couldn't give a flying fcuk" camp, I find the emboldened part of your post highly entertaining.
Of course there isn't a plan for that scenario, these are the very same people who didn't have a plan, of any sort, to start off with!
You're expectations are way too high! |
Even worse than that. They didn't even have a plan to leave the EU, let alone plans for an EU deal or no deal leave.
Cameron and the establishment were so cock sure of winning the referendum, they never planned for losing.
I've always said from the start that this will be kicked down the road and dilly dallied until the establishment find an excuse to brush it off as not possible.
At that point we'll find out how many people in this country still have the balls to hold the government to count. Not carrying out the democratic will of the people, in a democracy, makes us a fascist dictatorship and will be the final nail in the coffin for what's left of any national pride in the UK. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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panrider_uk wrote: | mpd72 wrote: |
Even worse than that. They didn't even have a plan to leave the EU, let alone plans for an EU deal or no deal leave.
Cameron and the establishment were so cock sure of winning the referendum, they never planned for losing.
I've always said from the start that this will be kicked down the road and dilly dallied until the establishment find an excuse to brush it off as not possible.
At that point we'll find out how many people in this country still have the balls to hold the government to count. Not carrying out the democratic will of the people, in a democracy, makes us a fascist dictatorship and will be the final nail in the coffin for what's left of any national pride in the UK. |
I'd suspect that, if they can get a credible leader, UKIP would make quite a resurgence. |
I've heard a few people mention that the latest leader is pretty good. The last bloke I remember talked sense, but was discredited by a media planned snare trap, which tried to get his dim dolly-bird to say something vaguely racist in a text.
Unfortunately, the mainly left controlled media make damn sure they never get any air time anymore. I couldn't even name him without looking.
This country appears to be heading head on, into some kind of Liberal left wing Snowflake abomination at an alarming rate. So alarming a rate that it will take a huge effort to put the brakes on now.
Media news outlets, even publically funded are now just propaganda mouthpieces for a load of hand wringing "refugees welcome", das rayciss, Muslim huggers.
Job adverts for black and ethnics only, housing associations for black only tenants, an immigration level so eye wateringly high that our own government lie to us, lower standard of living and higher taxation, more nanny state control, media control over bad stories being buried if they involve ethnics... the list goes on. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Rogerborg wrote: | Betrayal intensifies.
This staunchly Remoan Parliament will get a Meaningful Vote on any "deal" that our Remoan premier "negotiates".
Now they're demanding that when (not if) they reject that deal (thus leaving us with de facto No Deal) that they (en masse, and Remoaners nearly all) will get to decide What Do.
But there will be no remit nor mechanism nor time for them to "negotiate" anything else, or for us to proceed with a No Deal outcome since we've done nothing to prepare for that scenario.
So how could What Do possibly be anything other than beg and plead and bribe to renege / re-accede / continue with no changes, until they can finagle another referendum or just kick the whole issue down the road over and over again until it's simply forgotten about.
Notice the lack of a question mark at the end of that rhetorical question. |
Frankly parliament is useless, so any vote on the deal will just be an acceptance , if they do just cancel brexit, then meh, what can we do? they're clearly not interested in what the public want so there's no reform to be had. ____________________ '00 Aprilia RS50 > '92 Honda CG > '99 Yamaha Fazer > '91 Yamaha RXS > '79 Suzuki X5 > 01' Honda Cg > 07' Honda Cg > 82' Kawasaki Z200 > suzuki gsxr 400 gk73a > honda vfr 400 NC30> Yamaha RD350 YPVS F2 > Kawasaki ZZR 600 D1 > Yamaha TZR 250 2MA >Suzuki TL1000R > Yamaha TDR250 > Honda 929 blade > Suzuki SV1000 > Honda H100
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I think now that it would have been easier to sabotage this ridiculous EU experiment if we had stayed in. So maybe not all is lost if we can't get out. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Rob Fzs wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | I think now that it would have been easier to sabotage this ridiculous EU experiment if we had stayed in. So maybe not all is lost if we can't get out. |
Who would do that?
The establishment that love it ? |
I dunno, but you can see the cracks appearing, Italy's refusal to take in more immigrants perhaps being the latest. Hell, even Germany seems to be irreconcilably split on this issue now. At least, I'm hoping that this is the way things are going within the EU. I'd like nothing better than to see the bloc fail, and for Europe to come to its senses and learn to cooperate without this 'uber alles' from a bullying centre. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Rob Fzs wrote: | it's answer to this is more Europe EU |
FTFY. I try not to confuse the two.
Quote: | Eventually fascism will ruin the whole lot, but thats not the way it should be. |
Yes, it's unfortunate that some can only see extremes as the solution, although I'm not convinced that the leadership of the various nationalist movements around Europe at present are necessarily extreme. But then, in the face of the current trend of liberalism, Mickey Mouse looks like a symbol of fascism. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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My point about Europe was correct, they bring in another bunch of states from the continent every couple of years to stifle debate. |
Sorry, I think I'm missing your point there? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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panrider_uk wrote: | I'd suspect that, if they can get a credible leader, UKIP would make quite a resurgence. |
Batten is a sound bloke. You won't have heard about it in the legacy media though, since he's not as cheeky a troll as Farage.
Who I'd really like for the job though is Kurten, who is sound bloke and a great wind up merchant.
Trouble is, a surge back to UKIP will hand Downing Street to Comrades Corbyn and McDonnell (or at least the party that they have built), at which point the EUSSR becomes a secondary concern. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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