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| Val wrote: | | chickenstrip wrote: |
He's President of the USA, the most powerful country in the world.
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Who calls free democratic EU foes and bloody dictator Putin friend.
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Fake news! 
He called Putin a foe too.
And he's right about the EU, if you don't choose to take him literally because you don't like him 
But snowflakes like to be hurting.
At the moment, the EU is a foe of Britain too, even more hostile to us than to the US, as you like to illustrate.
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I rather think the only reason the Labour Party is still more or less in one piece is that they didn't get voted in. If they had to implement Brexit, they'd tear themselves apart too.
We didn't get a chance to vote for a credible Brexit implementation option. You know, one where the party, the politicians, believe in Brexit, collectively, and believe in Britain.
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Too right. Corbyn hardly ever commits to anything unless he deems it popular with the audience he's pedalling his lies to.
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| Rob Fzs wrote: | | panrider_uk wrote: | May has accepted all of Rees-Mogg's amendments so the Chequers plan is effectively dead. |
No deal incoming |
Could be. But no deal means no Brexit, since we've made no preparation for that eventuality, and won't do so.
If the democratic rump in Westminster do succeed in turning the Chequers BRINO into anything like a real Brexit, it'll be rejected by either the Remoaner majority in their "meaningful vote", or by Berlin at 5-to-Brexit-o'clock. See above for the consequence of that.
Incidentally, 20% of proles want May's soft Brexit, but 39% want no deal. I'm sure that everyone who didn't answer that poll absolutely, definitely, want No Brexit though. 
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I thought " 'No deal' is better than a bad deal," meant we were prepared to leave with no agreement, not that 'no deal' means staying in. Hotel California, anyone? |
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| Val wrote: | Just to be clear there are UK "patriots" on BCF that support Trump.
Who said EU is his foe and supports Putin?
What is wrong with you people?
You are so blindsided in your hatred that you are ready to betray your own country to the russian dictator.
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All hail Vladimir Putin!
Ok, now are you going to leave?
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Val leaving the UK is very similar to Brexit in that despite overwhelming public support, it's looking more and more like it's not going to happen.  |
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| Val wrote: | Just to be clear there are UK "patriots" on BCF that support Trump.
Who said EU is his foe and supports Putin?
What is wrong with you people?
You are so blindsided in your hatred that you are ready to betray your own country to the russian dictator.
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Tom Tugendhat, MP for Tonbridge and Malling. Chair of House of Commons foreign committee.
This is extraordinary. The US President said a hostile foreign power - one that has killed 298 in a plane, 1000s in Ukraine and used chemical weapons in the UK at least twice - is more trustworthy than the intelligence agencies of his own country. |
| Quote: | Donald Trump says Vladimir Putin was 'extremely strong and powerful in his denial' of Russian state interference in the 2016 US election
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is this fucking fake news central?
Are we going to just assume everything bad in the world is done by the Russians?
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| Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | I thought " 'No deal' is better than a bad deal," meant we were prepared to leave with no agreement, not that 'no deal' means staying in. Hotel California, anyone? |
May and her ideas,
Quite amusing from someone who was put there to make the Brexit happen. Even more amusing is her thinking, that if the UK won't get a nice deal, they'll just not going to go through with the whole Brexit idea, like this was a unilateral decision.
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| Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | I thought " 'No deal' is better than a bad deal," meant we were prepared to leave with no agreement, not that 'no deal' means staying in. Hotel California, anyone? |
We've done no preparations for a No Deal. Heck, we haven't even done preparations for any sort of Deal.
The government's demonstrable belief is that things must and will continue exactly as before, with no change. May's proxy-taxation fantasy, for example, would take years to set up even if the details were all agreed, done and dusted. It's not going to be slapped together in the few remaining months.
As the clock ticks down with nothing but empty face-sounds, it just becomes less and less possible for us to change anything on Brexit day.
Again: ignore the wah-wah-wah. Look at what's being done to prepare for Brexit: absolutely nothing.
I've been calling it since the referendum: the plan is to kick the can down the road over and over, and promise some form of Brexit tomorrow / next year / next Parliament. Just keep voting for the blue rosette. Strong and stable delay.
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| chickenstrip wrote: | I see BAe looking at developing a new generation fighter for Britain. |
The F-35 touted as one of the most expensive aircraft programmes ever produced F35s at $112 million each when development costs were taken into account. The Rafale M/C costs $145million each when development costs were taken into account. |
Sorry, once again I'm missing your point.
| Itchy wrote: | | chickenstrip wrote: | I see the commercial space sector in Britain looking at new launch sites for satellites etc. |
Um you do realise there is a reason why rocket launches into space are conducted as far south as possible right?
It's because launches near the equator give rockets an additional boost due to the spin of the earth.
Scott Manley describes it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71wPKALp7X8
So sure you can launch in the UK, but you need about 1/4 more fuel for the same payload. OR you need an inclination change which requires multiple burns which means a more complex rocket. |
Good grief, how do you get anywhere with anything in life with that kind of attitude? As ex-RAF, I say to you, "per ardua ad astra" - which is actually particularly apt in this case  . In fact, I would suggest all Remoaners consider this motto before they spout their defeatist attitudes.
Spineless, the lot o' ya.
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| Itchy wrote: | Thud...
You hear that? That's reality knocking.
| chickenstrip wrote: | I see BAe looking at developing a new generation fighter for Britain. |
The F-35 touted as one of the most expensive aircraft programmes ever produced F35s at $112 million each when development costs were taken into account. The Rafale M/C costs $145million each when development costs were taken into account.
| chickenstrip wrote: | I see the commercial space sector in Britain looking at new launch sites for satellites etc.
Not everyone has given up then |
Um you do realise there is a reason why rocket launches into space are conducted as far south as possible right?
It's because launches near the equator give rockets an additional boost due to the spin of the earth.
Scott Manley describes it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71wPKALp7X8
So sure you can launch in the UK, but you need about 1/4 more fuel for the same payload. OR you need an inclination change which requires multiple burns which means a more complex rocket. |
Fuel is a tiny proportion of the cost of a rocket launch and as we're talking small satellites here I doubt that fuel quantity is going to be an issue.
More info here: https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/07/16/scotland-site-selected-as-launch-base-for-lockheed-martin-orbex/
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Hey Itchy, I found a photo of you:
https://s20.postimg.cc/a3i5jvgi5/img_1093.jpg
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Um you do realise there is a reason why rocket launches into space are conducted as far south as possible right?
It's because launches near the equator give rockets an additional boost due to the spin of the earth.
Scott Manley describes it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71wPKALp7X8
So sure you can launch in the UK, but you need about 1/4 more fuel for the same payload. OR you need an inclination change which requires multiple burns which means a more complex rocket. |
Um, you *have* heard of polar orbits, haven't you? Not every orbit is equatorial |
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| Itchy wrote: | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44857317
EU signs a trade deal with Japan. |
Another one? This is the 3rd? 4th? one that you've announced. How many do we need?
| Al Beeb wrote: | [The God Emperor's] "America First" policy has seen tariffs introduced on a range of items, including steel, which both Japan and the EU export to the US. |
Except that He hasn't imposed tariffs on Japanosteel, has he? I know they didn't explicitly say that he has, but it's very carefully written so that Useful Idiots will infer it.
Fake news, very bad.
Anyway, it's great to see that the EU is keen to sign free trade deals with 3rd party countries without them having to become vassal states. Even ethnostates with deplorable immigration policies.
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