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jnw010 wrote: | Jimbo is positing a view, Val you're stating opinion as fact.
It's annoying. |
Ermmm...no.
It is a fact that there is no mythical European project - it's European Union between 28 equal independent countries. Read the EU treaties.
It is a fact that Bulgarians abroad are not imaginary drain to Bulgaria because they inject back more money per year then all FDIs!
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For 2017, the Bulgarians working abroad sent more than €1.1 billion back to Bulgaria, more money into Bulgaria than foreign investors invested in the same year. All the data is quoted from the Bulgarian National Bank.
The total amount is probably larger, as only the money sent through banks or money transfer services are included in the estimates, meaning that cars, valuables, antiques, jewelllery items, services, and money brought back in cash aren’t counted. |
Majority of FoM bulgarian workers abroad are temporary and get back to Bulgaria.
Also as I have said FoM is related to free movement not only for work, but for study and just travel. Means people educated abroad and more open society.
Those are facts. Not opinions.
All these FoM facts together are positive for Bulgaria not negative as Jimbo opinion was suggesting.
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Val wrote: | It is a fact that there is no mythical European project - it's European Union between 28 equal independent countries. Read the EU treaties. |
Of course it's a project.
Val wrote: | Sofia, Bulgaria -
Quote: | For 2017, the Bulgarians working abroad sent more than €1.1 billion back to Bulgaria, more money into Bulgaria than foreign investors invested in the same year. All the data is quoted from the Bulgarian National Bank.
The total amount is probably larger, as only the money sent through banks or money transfer services are included in the estimates, meaning that cars, valuables, antiques, jewelllery items, services, and money brought back in cash aren’t counted. |
Those are facts. Not opinions. |
Without a source it's just something you made up.
Val wrote: | Happy to look at any facts that say the opposite. |
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: |
Val wrote: | Sofia, Bulgaria -
Quote: | For 2017, the Bulgarians working abroad sent more than €1.1 billion back to Bulgaria, more money into Bulgaria than foreign investors invested in the same year. All the data is quoted from the Bulgarian National Bank.
The total amount is probably larger, as only the money sent through banks or money transfer services are included in the estimates, meaning that cars, valuables, antiques, jewelllery items, services, and money brought back in cash aren’t counted. |
Those are facts. Not opinions. |
Without a source it's just something you made up.
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As a contra to that, I know of at least 4 overseas insurers who are setting up UK branches because they wouldn't be able to 'passport' in after March. |
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So young, impressionable people exposed to blatant left bias through universities, with little world experience and outright assumed intellectual superiority are voting remain... and this proves remain is in the nations best interests how exactly?
Lets not even progress to obvious conclusion that 'old people are just outright racists!?' rendering their several decades of experience and contributions that build our communities invalid compared to those of the younguns (who clearly know it all already) who have comparatively very little world experience but are assumed to be correct (educated the Right way!)? I mean we're fast approaching full retard/Trogan horse schooling here...
Back to the initial assumptions though, its unreasonable to state any degree from any university is a reliable indicator of intellect. If all degrees were intellectual then yeah, maybe we could draw that assumption but the bar has been set so damn low in some degree courses and institutions that they could be considered intellectually pedestrian to all but the most challenged individuals, so yes, they are 'educated' but we can't say they are intellectually superior unless we dismiss all the fluffy degrees...
Further to that, I don't remember hearing international trade agreements being a core module in arts, sports science or any degrees for that matter so I'd question the proposition that merely holding a degree translate to further comprehension on the complexities of brexit? but again, why be rational about this, there's a narrative to push!
To be fair, I would prattle on about my anecdotal experiences and observations that Labours spectacular push to send every knuckle dragger to university has predictably pushed down standards, further compounded by monetising education making uni's for-profit cash cows ramming as many 'customers' of any intellectual ability through their doors to hand out those £30,000 pieces of paper.
That student union's are usually run by sports science and other such weekend subject students not because they have so much studying to do and so little time to socialise.
But I'll spare you and go straight for a conclusion suggesting that the argument presented is based upon false premise and overstated conjecture, the conclusions are spurious and malicious to say the least and if anything, the further left bias Uni students are subjected to and that they vote in that direction should at least be considered if we want an objective view but of course we don't want to be objective.
Now I could post links galore to demonstrate my own confirmation bias here but figure considering the level of popular anti brexit 'evidence' bouncing around here I'd at least leave something about as reliable, accurate, comprehensive but far more entertaining
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: |
Val wrote: | Sofia, Bulgaria -
Quote: | For 2017, the Bulgarians working abroad sent more than €1.1 billion back to Bulgaria, more money into Bulgaria than foreign investors invested in the same year. All the data is quoted from the Bulgarian National Bank.
The total amount is probably larger, as only the money sent through banks or money transfer services are included in the estimates, meaning that cars, valuables, antiques, jewelllery items, services, and money brought back in cash aren’t counted. |
Those are facts. Not opinions. |
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bhinso wrote: | I think in any deal, the EU is going to tear us a new one.
It has too, otherwise other countries might start thinking of following suit, and the EU wants to exist. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 261 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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