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Posted: 10:52 - 14 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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Ste wrote: | 'Make France great again!' Trump mocks Macron over world wars as Merkel calls for 'real true European army'
Donald Trump has hit out at Emmanuel Macron with a volley of tweets saying the French were "starting to learn German in Paris" before US intervention in the world wars, rounding off the attack off with a mocking plea to "MAKE FRANCE GREAT AGAIN!"
Mr Trump began with an extraordinary attack on Emmanuel Macron’s call for a “European army” by likening a French defence rapprochement with Germany to the Nazi occupation of France.
Minutes after his online outburst, German Chancellor Angela Merkel gave her unprecedented backing to Mr Macron's defence plans, saying she too wanted a "real true European army", which would complement, but not rival, the Northern Atlantic Alliance, Nato.
In a burst of tweets, Mr Trump also defended his lack of attendance at a World War One memorial event at a cemetery in France at the weekend - he was widely criticised after pulling out due to rain - and threatened wine tariffs in a fully-fledged Twitter rant.
“Emmanuel Macron suggests building its own army to protect Europe against the U.S., China and Russia,” tweeted Mr Trump, just back from the Paris commemorations.
“But it was Germany in World Wars One & Two - How did that work out for France? They were starting to learn German in Paris before the U.S. came along. Pay for NATO or not!”
Mr Trump has frequently criticised the level of members’ contributions to Nato, saying these had always been "ridiculously unfair" to the US.
His remarks drew scorn from Guy Verhofstadt, a Macron ally and the EU Parliament's Brexit Coordinator, who tweeted: "What Trump doesn’t seem to realize is that without French money, the USA would not even exist as France financed the American revolution. They even gave you the Statue of Liberty to celebrate this!”
The comments came just two days after Mr Macron and Mrs Merkel held hands and kissed after commemorating the World War One Armistice signed on November 11, 1918.
Mr Trump also threatened wine tariffs against France in the rant on the social network.
"On Trade, France makes excellent wine, but so does the U.S. The problem is that France makes it very hard for the U.S. to sell its wines into France, and charges big Tariffs, whereas the U.S. makes it easy for French wines, and charges very small Tariffs. Not fair, must change!" he wrote.
Mr Trump's ire stems from a call by Mr Macron last week for a "true European army”.
"We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia and even the United States of America,” he added, citing the recent decision of Mr Trump to withdraw from a Cold War-era nuclear treaty.
Mr Trump called the comments “very insulting”.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/13/trump-says-french-learning-german-paris-us-intervened-world/
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He's got a point though, whether he should air it in public or not.
Germany has tried to rule Europe twice by force, with France getting a kicking. The talk now is of an EU army being pushed by Germany again, but with France jumping on board with great vigour.
Comments about the EU needing an army to defend itself against Russia and the USA are frankly disgusting considering those countries freed France in the 2 previous attempts by Germany to take over. They clearly show either a complete lack of gratitude or France is making sure they don't get duffed again by Germany, making it 3-0. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Posted: 10:55 - 14 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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Quote: | What Trump doesn’t seem to realize is that without French money, the USA would not even exist as France financed the American revolution. They even gave you the Statue of Liberty to celebrate this! |
And what France is currently conveniently forgetting, is without the UK, USA and Russia, it would be a part of Germany by now. Apparently history started in 1992.
Oh, hang on, isn't that what the EU is all about? ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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I thought the issue was the US making noises about having less involvement with NATO, and Europe having to fend for itself. Just posturing at this stage I am sure, but Trump does like to ramp up a debate! ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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cdlxxvi wrote: | The people are grateful to Jacob and Boris for the new businesses boosting their economy.
That is, the people of France.
Chubb wrote: | Chubb European Group SE (CEG) and ACE Europe Life SE (AEL) are currently authorised in the UK. As the UK is part of the EU single market this allows these entities to operate in all EEA countries. This is likely to change as a result of Brexit.
Until 31 December 2018, Chubb European Group SE and ACE Europe Life SE will still be domiciled and have their registered office at the same address in England and will remain authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and the Prudential Regulation Authority.
Chubb has also received authorisation from the French regulator ACPR so Chubb European Group SE and ACE Europe Life SE can redomicile to France on 1 January 2019. This is subject to Chubb fulfilling certain administrative requirements by the end of 2018.
From 1 January, 2019, the new registered address for Chubb European Group SE and ACE Europe Life SE will be La Tour Carpe Diem, 31 Place des Corolles, Esplanade Nord, 92400 Courbevoie, France.
From 1 January, 2019, Chubb European Group SE and ACE Europe Life SE will be supervised by the ACPR, 4 Place de Budapest, CS 92459, 75436 PARIS CEDEX 09 and operate in the UK – initially at least – as an EEA branch. |
That's a $60 billion company going bye, bye. |
Does your news source only show anti Brexit news, or do you filter out all the inward investment manually to suit your agenda?
The largest tax dodgers to the UK, helped by EU tax loopholes, are tech firms such as Google, Facebook and the rest. All of which are moving headquarters to London before the EU tax fiddles stop them skipping UK tax by pretending to operate from Ireland. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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cdlxxvi wrote: | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
Does your news source only show anti Brexit news, or do you filter out all the inward investment manually to suit your agenda? |
Sir, you are most welcome to post about any company announcing or executing a Brexit-caused UK expansion.
In fact, for every company that announces that because of Brexit it's increasing its UK operation, I will donate £1 to Save the Children, up to an initial limit of £100. |
Cool. You can start with Google, Facebook and Snap (the owners of Snapchat) then.
These companies have actually physically moved HQ's to the UK, unlike all your companies, who are only threatening to leave the UK, cos Bexit innit.
Can you name any companies who have actually carried out their attention seeking Pro EU spitting of the dummy yet? Are they not leaving things a bit late? ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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mpd72 CPT wrote: | cdlxxvi wrote: |
In fact, for every company that announces that because of Brexit it's increasing its UK operation, I will donate £1 to Save the Children, up to an initial limit of £100. |
Cool. You can start with Google, Facebook and Snap (the owners of Snapchat) then.
These companies have actually physically moved HQ's to the UK, unlike all your companies, who are only threatening to leave the UK, cos Bexit innit.
Can you name any companies who have actually carried out their attention seeking Pro EU spitting of the dummy yet? Are they not leaving things a bit late? |
Has Google, Facebook, or Snap admitted that they made such move because of Brexit? No? Next, please.
Also: not sure about Snap, but while Google and Facebook have UK locations, they are registered in Ireland.
Finally, recently I posted about 4 companies (Barclays, Barden, Steris, and Chubb). 3 of them are already moving at least partially out of UK, and Barden just announced it will join them, all citing Brexit as the reason. It's not just talk. Paperwork is being filed with regulators, offices are being leased, money is being transferred. It is happening now.
Stay tuned, more will come. |
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cdlxxvi wrote: |
Has Google, Facebook, or Snap admitted that they made such move because of Brexit? No? Next, please.
Also: not sure about Snap, but while Google and Facebook have UK locations, they are registered in Ireland. |
Righto. Why do you think Google, Facebook and Snap might be moving their HQ from Ireland to the UK at a time when the EU created Double Irish tax fiddle will come to an end and we finally have a chance to tax tech companies operating in the UK, but pretending to do it from other EU countries with low corp tax?
cdlxxvi wrote: | Finally, recently I posted about 4 companies (Barclays, Barden, Steris, and Chubb). 3 of them are already moving at least partially out of UK, and Barden just announced it will join them, all citing Brexit as the reason. It's not just talk. Paperwork is being filed with regulators, offices are being leased, money is being transferred. It is happening now.
Stay tuned, more will come. |
"Moving"..... can you see the flaw in your argument there?
I'm "going" to win the lottery on Friday too, because of Brexit.
Past tense please. Come on, you didn't think you'd get away with that did you? I'll ask again...
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Riejufixing wrote: | Considering that we were actually told what was likely to happen, from the economic point of view, in the short term, and still voted to leave, all this ranting, mutual schadenfreude and general wank is pretty daft.
Considering how to get the best post-Brexit would be far more productive. |
We cannot negotiate (seek terms of surrender) until we leave next March.
Again.. I say it is not the leaving that worries me its the tons/tonnes of Pony being laid by many shouty folk who DO NOT KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
They can only spout what they, think, feel, or more likely want to happen.
Indecision is the worst thing for any economy.
Who would be happy if the Dr. said you may have C, you may not, It may be curable or again it may not.
How would you make plans? ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Do you not think the EU have played a very large part in making the negotiations as difficult as possible, in order to warn off future defectors from Ze Federation of Greater Germany?
They apparently weaponized the Irish border issue, when the UK, N. Ire, nor Ireland want a hard border. If we don't build one, what exactly will the EU do without it's bully boy army up and running?
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I agree that indecision is the worst thing. Trouble is, nobody even knows if TM's grand plan will survive the week, let alone the foreseeable future... Indecision therefore is all we can offer. Not good. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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M.C wrote: | cdlxxvi wrote: | Has Google, Facebook, or Snap admitted that they made such move because of Brexit? No? Next, please. |
That makes no sense If companies are still investing in the UK (which there have been loads), it shows they don't see Brexit as a big deal. |
I suppose there is a rare chance that it passed them and their advisers by, when conducting their due diligence?
Or maybe it's just another Remoaner twisting facts to suit his agenda? If someone leaves, its cos Bexit, if they move here, it's cos multiculturalism innit? ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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cdlxxvi wrote: | Chubb...
That's a $60 billion company going bye, bye. |
There is somewhere on the interweb a list of 50 big companies that lately decided to move out of the UK because of the Brexit dividents.
Columbia Threadneedle switched £6.2 billion worth of assets from UK domiciled funds to Luxembourg domiciled funds
https://www.ftadviser.com/investments/2018/05/09/columbia-threadneedle-moves-uk-funds-over-brexit-fears/
Liberty Specialty Markets is redomiciling its insurance company from the UK to Luxembourg
Admiral Group is planning to move some of its UK business from Admiral Insurance Company Limited to an entity in Spain, Admiral Europe Compañía de Seguros, S.A, that was set on 20 December 2017. 9/50 https://admiralgroup.co.uk/our-business/corporate-governance/european-business-transfer-2018
A ferry company has brought in 2 new ships, including the "Brexit Buster" ship Celine (600 truck capacity, world's largest short sea roll-on roll-off ferry). Idea is to bypass the UK and send freight directly from Ireland to Belgium and Spain.
SwissQuote cancelled its expansion plans in London after Brexit, and instead bought a bank in Luxembourg
STM Life moving part of its business from Gibraltar to Malta to guard against the effects of Brexit.
etc...etc...Despite the UK still in the EU.
Riejufixing wrote: | Considering that we were actually told what was likely to happen, from the economic point of view, in the short term, and still voted to leave, all this ranting, mutual schadenfreude and general wank is pretty daft.
Considering how to get the best post-Brexit would be far more productive. |
Considering the EU ref. is based on fraud and from economic point of view Leave campaign said everything will be great, German car manufacturers will let UK to have the cake and eat it, it will be the easiest deal ever, obviosly you must start owning this bulshit.
Short term? You mean 50 years? Pretty sure literally no-one voted to be poorer for the next 50 years and to lose £400bln until 2030. In the best case scenario.
I agree that how to deal with Brexit is much more productive - means there is no better deal for the UK then stopping Brexit.
MCN wrote: |
Indecision is the worst thing for any economy.
Who would be happy if the Dr. said you may have C, you may not, It may be curable or again it may not.
How would you make plans? |
Uncertainty is the smallest UK problem here. UK has lost £40bln in the last 2 years. Say it will lose £60bln more in the next 3 years because of Brexit uncertainty.
The long term lost of trust in EU and in the world is much worst.
Don't get me started if the hard left swivel-eyed loonies get in power.
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Brexit Deal - if you think you need to read all 400 pages deal to know it's much worst then our current EU membership you need help.
- Cabinet backs deal
- Parliament rejects deal
- Lab calls vote of no conf., loses
- Markets tank
- Theresa "the broken promise" offers Peoples Vote
- UK retracts A50 stays in EU and recovers the £60 billions Brexit losses until 2022.
- Justine Greening wins the next GE against Corbyn on pro-business pro-EU platform.
- 2021 EU budget UK loses its rebate.
- 2025 UK's GDP and all else is as it was 2015.
- UK finally recovers EU/world trust/influence 2050 and is great again, part of even greater EU federation.
That is all folks
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Oh, no, they've got it wrong. That sounds better. It will take longer for them to talk about it. Nothing more but wibble 'till mañana. |
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