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You should tell the whole story, not miss bits out to suit your agenda.
"Ford has said a no-deal Brexit would be catastrophic for the firm's manufacturing operations in the UK and that it would do "whatever is necessary" to protect its business"
(my emphasis)
Edit: Still, at least it's on topic, unlike those twats blathering. They should get married. |
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Every year of Britain's EU membership resulted in a net increase in jobs in car production did it? 
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Blame everything on Brexit.  |
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I thought the EU helped with the factory in Turkey where they build the new Transit?  |
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One for the forum's Doom and Gloom Project Fear regurgitator Remainers. I thought this comment was pertinent with regards to announcements of "leaving cos Brexit" being pure lies in many cases, just to pedal propaganda.
| Quote: | So on the news this morning Airbus announce that they will stop production if the A 380 in two years.. sighting poor sales as the reason and saying airlines are buying smaller more fuel efficient planes.. fair enough.. they say this will affect around 200 jobs in the UK but those employees will probably be deployed in other parts if the business....
Now let's go back two weeks to when the CEO of Airbus gave a statement to the press stating that because if brexit Airbus would be pulling out if the UK and up to,, and forgive me if I'm wrong but I think it was 11,000 UK jobs were at risk... Another " high up " in Airbus the next day said in an interview that the CEO had been invited to a meeting with the UK government and asked to put that statement out.
So this was obviously lies as they even now are saying there will be no or minimal UK job losses...maybe the CEO and his press office need to speak to each other from time to time.
.. Scaremongering and lies on a grand scale and trying to influence the brexit "leave".. surely a matter for our authorities to take up.. but no they are to busy trying to discredit the no deal brexit...
The UK government have also had a hand in this,,, so they should be held to account.. |
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| Posted: 10:57 - 14 Feb 2019 Post subject: |
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I thought the EU helped with the factory in Turkey where they build the new Transit? |
Correct, the EU's investment bank is financing all these mew manufacturing plants in Turkey, which are taking work from the EU, often the UK.
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10026411.focus-on-ford-the-80m-eu-loan-for-fords-turkish-transit-plant/
| Quote: | THE monthly meeting of the board of directors of the European Investment Bank (EIB) in March began with the approval of a €80m loan to the Bulgarian subsidiary of a Turkish glass tableware manufacturer.
But it was another Turkish loan decision made that day among nearly €4 billion worth of lending that this week sparked uproar among Southampton Euro MPs and unions.
Meeting at the bank’s headquarters in Luxembourg – a striking glass-roofed building, its 28 directors and 12 alternate directors signed off up to €190m of funding for a Ford Transit factory in Turkey.
Among those in the room that day was the UK Treasury’s man on the board, Mike Glycopantis, and a Treasury-appointed expert, Timothy Stone.
Three months later, on June 27, an eightyear €100m (£80m) cheap loan was signed to upgrade the sprawling Ford Otosan factory in Koceali, specifically to make the next generation of Ford Transits.
The significance of the loan was put under the spotlight this week after Ford announced the closure of its Southampton factory, and confirmed that production of the Transit would be moved to Koceali. |
The Pro EU media dress it up as not connected, but you've got to be pretty gullible not to see through a clear lie like this.
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There is no correlation between the number of cars manufactured and the number of people directly employed by the manufacturers. The reason is improving automation, thanks to which it takes much fewer man-hours to make a car than it took 70 years ago.
Still, car manufacturers bailing out of Greatest Brexitain will cause some job losses - but more importantly we will lose the whole ecosystem around their operations, i.e. there will be a dip in the business for everyone who supplies them with machinery, servicing, electricity, building maintenance, cleaning, catering, computers, and even toilet paper. We will also lose the tax revenue.
But I guess it's all worth it, because at least we won't hear anyone speaking Hungarian in the supermarket, while we wonder where are all the tomatoes gone.
| mpd72 CPT wrote: | The EU has managed to turn us into the biggest car buyers in Europe |
We aren't the biggest car buyers in Europe. Germany is. |
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| mpd72 CPT wrote: | The EU has managed to turn us into the biggest car buyers in Europe |
We aren't the biggest car buyers in Europe. Germany is. |
OK, checking we've slipped to 2nd place in recent years, but considering the size of the UK, being second placed behind Germany across the whole of the EU, puts us as a rather important market to sell to.
Which makes all these Remainer CEO lies about moving even more ridiculous.
Are you pretending the Airbus announcement all over the news this morning, highlighting the Project Fear lies pedalled by the Remain media? Now it's only 200 staff and they expect them all to be given alternative roles within the company.
Not quite the 10,000 plus doom and gloom pedalled by the Remedia and you.
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Oh, taking aside the inconvenience to passengers ..
https://airlinerwatch.com/eu-airlines-have-seven-months-to-adjust-their-ownership-structures-for-post-brexit-era/
Where do you think all that lovely tax, income tax for the employees, national insurance ... will be going, when the shareholders etc, are not from the UK, well, it won't be the UK treasury now will it !!
Yes, brexit is just so good for the UK's economy, it's the event that just keeps on giving
Still, looks like we have a trade deal lined up with Zimbabwe ! Yeay !!
So, go on then, tell us the good news then ..
Well, I suppose you could say, Eurotunnel have been given 3 months to see if something can be sorted to keep the service functional
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47215904
I guess, kind of good news?
However, Eurostar train drivers are currently being issued with French train driver licences - UK issued ones will not be valid from 29th March and therefore will have to be suspended in the interim period.
Oh, now the fishermen are bleating, as, they voted in the main for brexit, but now realise, the largest market they export to is the eu, and now they are worried !! A case of chickens coming home to roost
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| linuxyeti wrote: | | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
Are you pretending the Airbus announcement all over the news this morning, highlighting the Project Fear lies pedalled by the Remain media? Now it's only 200 staff and they expect them all to be given alternative roles within the company.
Not quite the 10,000 plus doom and gloom pedalled by the Remedia and you. |
The news from Airbus this morning is to do with the A380, not Brexit, although, once the requirement for building such large wings has gone, makes moving wing production that bit easier.. |
Duh....
The previous Project Fear propaganda about Airbus, was also about the A380 and Brexit.
You know, the one they’ve now changed their tune on and revealed was nothing more than a lie to promote Remain propaganda.
Short term memory loss again?
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| linuxyeti wrote: | Oh, taking aside the inconvenience to passengers ..
https://airlinerwatch.com/eu-airlines-have-seven-months-to-adjust-their-ownership-structures-for-post-brexit-era/
Where do you think all that lovely tax, income tax for the employees, national insurance ... will be going, when the shareholders etc, are not from the UK, well, it won't be the UK treasury now will it !!
Yes, brexit is just so good for the UK's economy, it's the event that just keeps on giving
Still, looks like we have a trade deal lined up with Zimbabwe ! Yeay !!
So, go on then, tell us the good news then ..
Well, I suppose you could say, Eurotunnel have been given 3 months to see if something can be sorted to keep the service functional
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47215904
I guess, kind of good news?
However, Eurostar train drivers are currently being issued with French train driver licences - UK issued ones will not be valid from 29th March and therefore will have to be suspended in the interim period.
Oh, now the fishermen are bleating, as, they voted in the main for brexit, but now realise, the largest market they export to is the eu, and now they are worried !! A case of chickens coming home to roost |
You think a foreign registered company pays its fair share of UK tax?
Ever considered a career in comedy?
If you believe the bullsh1t in that article then you’ll believe anything. So no airlines not EU owned fly over Europe? How do these EU airlines expect to fly to the U.K.?
Wake up and think for yourself before regurgitating propaganda eh?
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| linuxyeti wrote: | | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
Are you pretending the Airbus announcement all over the news this morning, highlighting the Project Fear lies pedalled by the Remain media? Now it's only 200 staff and they expect them all to be given alternative roles within the company.
Not quite the 10,000 plus doom and gloom pedalled by the Remedia and you. |
The news from Airbus this morning is to do with the A380, not Brexit, although, once the requirement for building such large wings has gone, makes moving wing production that bit easier.. |
Short memories. This was when thousands of jobs were threatened as part of Project Fear.
| linuxyeti wrote: | | kippyzona wrote: | It looks like Airbus will be leaving the UK.
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Airbus already have a sizable manufacturing capability in China, and have done for a while, including a final assembly line for the Airbus A320 series, when we leave the EU single market, we'll be fighting for a trade deal with the EU, in the same way China does with the EU, oh, and China just happen's to be the EU's 2nd largest trading partner, somehow, I doubt the UK will come anywhere close to matching that ..
... well, I think you can see where this is going .. |
Err yarp...Today on AL Beeb.
| Quote: | The BBC understands that around 200 jobs in the UK could be under threat from the decision.
Airbus confirmed it hopes to redeploy a "significant" number of affected staff to other projects.
Mr Enders said: "It needs to be evaluated. It's clear we make a lot of wings in Britain and a few wings for the A380.
"Hopefully we can redeploy a significant number of our employees there and re-use also the infrastructure." |
June on Al Beeb...
| Quote: | Airbus has warned it could leave the UK if it exits the European Union single market and customs union without a transition deal.
The European planemaker said the warning was not part of "project fear", but was a "dawning reality".
Airbus employs 14,000 people at 25 sites in the UK - around half in Wales. |
^ That is project fear right there. Absolute bullsh1t, which the remaoners on here all lapped up as 14,000 jobs going cos Brexit, which has now turned into 200 people being redeployed not cos Brexit.
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You think a foreign registered company pays its fair share of YK tax?
Ever considered a career in comedy?
If you believe the bullsh1t in that article then you’ll believe anything. So no airlines not EU owned fly over Europe? How do these EU airlines expect to fly to the U.K.?
Wake up and think for yourself before regurgitating propaganda eh? |
Oh, you dullard !! No, what will need to happen, is for airlines, such as easyjet, to set up foreign owned/crewed aircraft, they started doing this a while ago to be honest, however, as the Austrian branch of easyjet, is, well, Austrian, whereas before, it was all part of the UK company, that taxes etc, that would have gone to the UK treasury, will now go to the Austrian treasury..
Also you 'tard, flying over, is NOT the same as flying to, which is also different to flying within, different rules & regulations.
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| linuxyeti wrote: | | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
You think a foreign registered company pays its fair share of YK tax?
Ever considered a career in comedy?
If you believe the bullsh1t in that article then you’ll believe anything. So no airlines not EU owned fly over Europe? How do these EU airlines expect to fly to the U.K.?
Wake up and think for yourself before regurgitating propaganda eh? |
Oh, you dullard !! No, what will need to happen, is for airlines, such as easyjet, to set up foreign owned/crewed aircraft, they started doing this a while ago to be honest, however, as the Austrian branch of easyjet, is, well, Austrian, whereas before, it was all part of the UK company, that taxes etc, that would have gone to the UK treasury, will now go to the Austrian treasury..
Also you 'tard, flying over, is NOT the same as flying to, which is also different to flying within, different rules & regulations. |
So you're saying that every airline which flies over or to an EU country must have EU owned and crewed aircraft, reaching over 50% EU shareholding? Etihad? Emirates?
The actual threat could well mean something different if you cut the bullshit and think about it.
| Quote: | For an airline to operate routes within the EU, it must demonstrate that it is effectively owned and controlled by EU nationals, with at least 50 per cent of its shares held by EU nationals. This poses a problem for UK airlines after Brexit, when their UK shareholders will no longer be classed as EU shareholders. |
Flying to or from the UK is not operating a route WITHIN the EU is it, it's too or from.
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| Im-a-Ridah wrote: | I wonder if European carriers want to keep their landing slots at Heathrow |
Won't really matter, if things do go pear shaped, they won't be worth anything like they are now, instead, Amsterdam, Paris Charles De Gaulle & Frankfurt will be the main beneficiaries. They already are to some degree, although not brexit related, but, due to the debacle over the new runway.
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