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Riejufixing wrote: | "Speaking to ConservativeHome yesterday, Jacob Rees-Mogg admitted that “the Prime Minister will not deliver a no deal Brexit.” |
She may well find it's out of her hands. There is still a good chance that Parliament will stumble into it if they continue to tie their own hands in the way they have been doing.
I'd take the current WA over revoking A50*, with the proviso that we can find some politicians who will actually stand up for the UK's interests in subsequent negotiations, including being ready to call bad faith if the EU manoeuvres to hold us in against our will, and ready, in that case, to walk out. But I'm still hoping for a "no deal" exit as things stand. It is still the only proper Leave outcome.
*Yes mpd, I'm fully aware that will put the cat amongst your pigeons, but read all of what I've said in this post ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | BBC News wrote: | Labour's Hilary Benn said MPs have to take responsibility for the Brexit process because the government was not doing its job. |
He might regret this. It's a handy precedent for the European Parliament if we stay in but don't toe the line. |
MPs are saying "Parliament has taken control" from Theresa May, but I think they will find that they have done no such thing, as they are no more in agreement with each other than anyone else. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Val will be saying there were 200 million before the week is out ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Yes, I saw that & posted it here too! Snap! Deleted to avoid confusion. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBEwTw8wAaI
The Who`s Roger Daltrey calls the EU `The F*****g Mafia` on Sky News
"As if we didn't tour Europe before the fcuking EU"
lolz. Still got it. |
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iooi wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
MPs are saying "Parliament has taken control" from Theresa May, but I think they will find that they have done no such thing, as they are no more in agreement with each other than anyone else. |
This is so funny as to be a crazy. If these stupid MP's think the EU will talk and agree to any deal they MAY, just find a tenuous agreement on.
I'm just hoping that the EU will simply say at the end of this extension. Times up.... You are now out of the EU with no deal.. |
Yup, the obstacles to any deal other than the current one are formidable. I've lost count of how many times the EU have said this is it, take it or leave it, and yet more than half our MPs don't appear to have heard them. I really don't think they're going to relent at the last minute on this, and if anyone is counting on that (and that would depend on a majority in Parliament for something substantial, workable and acceptable to the EU - now there's a unicorn for you!), it's no better than the brinksmanship they're all accusing May of playing at.
I watched Lisa Nandy on the tv today saying that everyone's views need to be taken into account, as there are so many differing views on what ought to happen. She's a nice lady who obviously cares, but so naive - way to guarantee no agreement on anything! And this is where Parliament is tying its own hands, but can't bring themselves to face it. And how we will exit without a deal, no matter what "control" they think they have gained They all just say, "oh, we must all compromise", without being willing to do so themselves, but actually meaning that everyone else should come round to their preference.
Funniest of all, you can place amidst all this the fact that the majority of them still don't want us to leave the EU, but they feel now they have to somehow conceal that whilst still quietly trying to achieve it, and they actually have ensured they'll get no control over anything...not even themselves Let's face it, if they were honest with themselves, they'd all be calling for a revocation of A50, loud and clear.
May's best bet now is to tell the 1922 Committee that if her deal is accepted and passed in the House, then she will resign. And even that doesn't guarantee it will go through on a third hearing. If a third hearing is allowed. In short, everything but exiting on a no deal basis, despite anyone's best efforts to avoid it, is virtually blocked. I think it might well be the outcome, purely by default. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I don't really get why May resigning is being offered as some sort of sweetener in any deal.
Who would we have instead.
I've always thought we should have had a PM who backed Brexit.
BUT
Boris = Boris
Gove =
JRM = I like some of what he stands for but monocle sorta guy |
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bhinso wrote: | I don't really get why May resigning is being offered as some sort of sweetener in any deal. |
Because she doesn't have what it takes to negotiate decent permanent relations with the EU. Remember, the WA is only supposed to be temporary, to oil the gears of leaving, as it were. The real work comes after a WA has been passed and enacted.
We need true Leave MPs and negotiators after the WA has been enacted, not soppy Remain idiots who will still give everything away - even more so with this particular WA, within which there is a real risk of that happening if our negotiators aren't ready and willing to be hard-line*, should the need arise.
*by which I mean ready to stand up to EU bullying. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Lets be honest here, a lot of them see the EU as future employment after they lose political virility in the UK...
What the fuck else can they do apart bullshit for a living whilst spending vast amounts on expenses? Course they
don't want it to fold. May will pop up in the EU council sooner or later, mark my words. Her job offer has probably
already been accepted, a reward for fucking this up so much better than they could have hoped she would. While of
course proclaiming to anyone that would listen that she was working very, very hard to get us out. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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May resigning is pointless.
She is the sacrificial lamb, and will go before the next election anyway.
While i'm no fan of May's I have great admiration of her for having the bottle to stand up and be counted and take on the poison chalice.
Interesting how all the "OUT" supporters suddenly dissipated and were not prepared to stand for election to one of the biggest roles going and be a history maker. ____________________ Just because my bike was A DIVVY, does not mean i am...... |
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Riejufixing wrote: | Val wrote: | Yeah masses are waiting...except 5,763,282 of all voters want to cancel Brexit now |
Well, even if that figure is accurate and reflects those who voted in the refeerendum, it's a lot less than 17+ million.
I'm glad you have abandoned your nonsensical claim about "2 million marchers", by the way. Well done. |
Brexiters spending days wanging on about numbers on the march last weekend suggests it has properly freaked the shit out of you mate
Also this:
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Posted: 21:06 - 26 Mar 2019 Post subject: |
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"2 million"! See my post on this page. You and mpd72 have a lot in common. (I know that's going to hurt. ) You keep posting the same falsehoods and imaginings to suit your agenda even when they've been effectively countered. Only The Guardian claimed it was 2 million. It wasn't even 1 million of the intrepid tube-travellers. Remain lies.
The petition raised by the wannabe MP murderer only shows that 12% of "the electorate" (note that anyone can sign the petition) vehemently want Remain, yet you're proclaiming that triumphantly?
I'm surprised at Rees-Mogg's grudging support for May's Deal in preference to No Deal. If that's the way it goes then all that's left to Brexiteers is to be as downright abusive as Remainers have been once the EU inevitably shows it's true colours to the most myopic of voters. Then we'll all descend into either chaos or a New World Order when we could have been an outpost of freedom (not for the first time ). "No, you've ruined my future!"
Lastly, regarding Rees-Mogg, his kind make money regardless of what happens. Money comes to money. That doesn't mean he's cynically manipulating the situation to suit his own pocket. Like I said, his kind never lose financially. |
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Ahh - thats better.
We may not get the Brexit we are after, but I am at least in control of Valxit.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 25 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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