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Jewlio Rides Again LLB
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 22 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Poppycock. As with all laws, there are exemptions and clauses that can be used. As with the free movement of people, yet people prefer to trot the line out and blame the pesky EU for everything.

Given that there are exemptions from EU competition laws in place with regards to national security, armed forces etc, and we're currently undergoing preparations to build a new fleet of warships, and just completed two large aircraft carriers, why wasn't the steel procured there?

I'll let Donk continue to believe he knows what he's talking about though, given he gets upset and sulks and avoids the topics he's made a mug of on.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 22 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
State aid is a socialist leftist measure. Therefore you should be celebrating the fact that state aid can't be given Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 22 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Those are actual quotes from our government you tool.

Try reading the news before stabbing the keyboard.

It’s EU competition laws which means that the bulk of government procurement must be awarded to other EU countries, we can’t keep it in Britain all the time we’re in the EU. I’m sure you know this as nobody is that thick.


Quotes from the same government that you say constantly publish lies and untruths?

Who's the thick one again? Go and look it up, exemptions from competition laws regarding national security etc.

I also like the fact that downrated a post that showed you up for being the clueless person you are, getting to you that yet again I'm right and you are wrong, is it?
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 22 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Does Chinese steel have anything to do with these latest layoffs?
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 22 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jmoan wrote:
Does Chinese steel have anything to do with these latest layoffs?


No.

UK steel plants can't compete with European ones. The massive Rotterdam steel plant is vertically integrated meaning they own the energy plant that supplies them, the mines and they have their own port facilities.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 22 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Itchy wrote:
The massive Rotterdam steel plant


What's the name of this "massive Rotterdam steel plant"?
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 22 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jmoan wrote:
Does Chinese steel have anything to do with these latest layoffs?


Course it does.
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jmoan wrote:
Does Chinese steel have anything to do with these latest layoffs?


China is the fundamental problem. Ignore Itchy, he works for the Chinese government.
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PostPosted: 06:51 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Im-a-Ridah wrote:
Jmoan wrote:
Does Chinese steel have anything to do with these latest layoffs?


China is the fundamental problem. Ignore Itchy, he works for the Chinese government.


Itchy Huawei?
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PostPosted: 06:55 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:


Itchy Huawei?


Poor chap. Can't you get cream for that?
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PostPosted: 07:16 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
Itchy Huawei?


https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kianweiaritcles/193295.jsp

Toshiba yesterday, Huawei today!
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
The moment China China China start playing ball and stop stealing designs from Western countries and ripping them off, they can start whinging.


It's actually called progress.

ALL countries go through this system.

They look for ideas elsewhere copy them as a base for their own industries.

Once you get to a certain level of development you can throw engineers at it and start to improve upon and actually excel. We saw this with Hyundai, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Yamaha. They were called copies and crap for decades until they weren't. This has happened lots of times:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_in_Germany

So what am I saying? I'm saying you cannot rest on your past achievements.

You obviously rest on your past achievements. For instance you still mention the PriceWaterhouseCoopers from 2002 that was 17 years ago. Haven't you done anything note worthy since then.

mpd72 wrote:
Until they stop taking the piss, countries should be free to set whatever tariffs they want on Chinese imports. If we were free of the EU, much like Trump's saving of the US steel industry,


Cool so Trump is also a socialist too Very Happy


mpd72 wrote:
we could have done the same in the UK.


Lefty socialist policy. British steel is worthless they cannot compete. So why are you endorsing a leftist policy?

So should unprofitable coal mines be kept open then? Another leftist policy.

This is what's so fun about poking you because anybody can run rings around you Very Happy

You call people snowflake people call you back and you cry Very Happy

You slur people people slur you back and you cry Very Happy

You call others stupid yet we point out your incredible stupidity and you cry Very Happy


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They're cheating their way to world domination and it's about time someone stood up them.



The US did a whole lot of cheating too as with Toshiba. But when you do it, it's OK but when somebody else does it's not OK!


Heh lefty snowflake.

Oh FYI Labour introduced the NHS. It is therefore Leftist therefore it must be dismantled and replaced with an American style health care system Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
So if China is leading the field in any technology, it's ok for others to steal from them?
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
Jmoan wrote:
Does Chinese steel have anything to do with these latest layoffs?

Course it does.

Really? They're only over-capacity by about 1/5 of total global production....
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
chickenstrip YFPOS wrote:
So if China is leading the field in any technology, it's ok for others to steal from them?



Sure, because if you do something then you should expect it to be done back to you.

The US has no real grounds to complain. Consider Alexander Hamilton, or even the fact that the US took British nuclear weapon research data and pretty much said yoink. Toshiba and a German wind generator are some of the more recent things.

Oh and the EVERYTHING IS STOLEN meme....


Um no there are things called licenses eventually you may one day learn how to do it yourself. As with Hyundai.

Did Hyundai steal Ford's engine? They had a joint agreement to build obsolete Ford Engines. Hyundai threw 1000s of engineers at it and developed their own based on what they learned.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
Itchy wrote:


It's actually called progress.



Or "thieving" as we call it in civilised Western countries.


This.
So it's ok to steal, as a general principle? Is there a difference between stealing ideas and stealing other property?
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
So the WAB will not be up for discussion and voting.

https://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/key-brexit-legislation-pushed-back-following-backlash-from-mps-11364364036483

Does this mean it actually dead, finito, a dead parrot etc. Praying
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
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So the WAB will not be up for discussion and voting


They will find out how well the Brexit party has done before any debated/slanging matches in the House when the bill's debated.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
Or "thieving" as we call it in civilised Western countries.


Cool so you're going to give us back the 23 trillion you stole from the Empire right?

Or does that not count coz you say so?

I know your defence you'll say it was a long time ago.

So you're going to pay back for destroying Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and Syria right?

NOTE the UK VOTED for this. They voted for these interventions. Therefore you kind of have to pay for it.

Oh wait when I do it then it's Fine but when somebody does it then it's not OK


In fact the UK will be giving back Diego Garcia right? As with the UN ruling today.

What's that snowflake? You can sling mud but cry when somebody does it back to you?
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