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Stoker Nitrous Nuisance
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Posted: 02:01 - 15 Dec 2016 Post subject: Bike Scrappage scheme |
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I went through one of the MAG missives posted on here earlier, and found proposals for a bike scrappage scheme, similar to the one that happend with cars some years ago, did anyone else notice it; and if so can you link please?
I realise as this historic and not recent it aint exactly news, but if it has slipped under everyone elses radar ( and we know how politicians like to hide things) then it is old news that some of you may like to be made aware of.
*Good news, perhaps, for dealers who have taken what in it's time might have been considered a pile of crap, in exchange for a brand new bike with financing, and have a barn (or 3) of potentially valuable scrap, but for the rest of us it means an end to a supply of cheap second-hand parts.
This is deliberate, it is to make us buy bland E4/5 bikes, to drive the economy by being good consumers by buying shit we don't really need.
What Happened to Repair, Re-use and Recycle?
* (there is an airfield somewhere in the uk, where hundreds, if not thousands of cars await destruction following their disposal under the so called scrappage scheme. Some of these cars, worth only their weight in scrap at the time of scrappage, are now worth their weight in wealthy middle-aged car enthusiasts willing to bid over their carcasses.......)
I hope I'm making myself clear?
Although I do realise that any bike over twenty years old is now considered a classic...how fucked is that...Pffff |
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Rogerborg nimbA
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Posted: 09:28 - 15 Dec 2016 Post subject: |
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Can't recall it. MCIA was banging on about it after the big slump in 2009, but sales have picked up.
Is this in the context of the London ULEZ zone making pre-2008 bikes pariahs? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Posted: 21:24 - 15 Dec 2016 Post subject: |
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My 1996 xv750 (Virago) is a 'classic' then |
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stevo as b4 World Chat Champion
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Posted: 02:16 - 16 Dec 2016 Post subject: |
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It's one of the very few good examples of the Teflon Mantra, (bikes ain't like cars). Only the people with commuting use in mind that are already using often cheap and cheerful throw away Chinese or old nails of Japanese bikes, would take notice of scrappage incentives.
Fucking weirdos like me will go to great lengths and expense to buy and own 20-30year old bikes deliberately, as that's what we like and we won't entertain getting a new clean Euro4/5 compliant bike, as all we want from bikes is fun, nostalgia and lots of opportunities and potential for tinkering and restoring/building/modifying.
Probably 2/3 or more of UK bike owners are leisure bikers, and most of them are very bloody fussy, opinionated and narrow minded about exactly what they want in a new bike and even down to the brand loyalty, image, and model year.
A would be Fireblade owner might not even be willing to think about or look at ZX10R or S1000RR etc. They might only like the B1 or C6 models etc and not anything else.
In a whole different world The would be Ford Focus buyer, would probably be very open to looking at a Golf, Leon, A3 or Megane etc. There's no brand loyalty in cars, only specs/prices and a lot of premium badge snobbery. You will almost never hear of anyone that's had 3different generations of Ford Focus, and looks forward to upgrading to the new model revision every few years.
Its quite possible for someone to have owned every CBR or GSXR for the last 10years and be an enthusiast of them to an obsessive degree.
I wonder how many people who participated in the last car scrapped scheme kick themselves now for getting rid of their old banger. Probably not many but a few I would think
I'd much rather be owning a 20grand Escort RST series 1, that's accelerating in value now, instead of a 2016 20k Focus that's losing ££££'s a year and is very popular with a flooded market making finding them easy, but selling them hard. |
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Rogerborg nimbA
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Posted: 10:18 - 17 Dec 2016 Post subject: |
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stevo as b4 wrote: | Loads of old motors |
Anecdotally, or... ?
Oh, here we are. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/357672/bis-foi-2014-20775-scrapped-vehicles-supporting-data.csv
81 Morris Minors.
30 Capris.
On the other hand, 2004 Ford Kas.
11,800+ Micras! ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 128 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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