Penalty Charge Notice - how long to send me notice?

[SuperMike]

So, the council have been hiding at the bottom of my road with a mobile camera van. I sometimes when I am running late hang a right through the no right turn sign - it's not big, it's not clever, but it happens. Got home to two letters this evening with penalty charge notices for £130 each, reduced to £65 if paid within the next 14 days. The incidents happened end of November on two consecutive days, so are just under three weeks old now. Is there a time limit for how long the council have to send you a prosecution notice or am I banged to rights? I seem to remember something about 14 days to serve a speeding penalty notice?

Any hope or am I going to get my pants pulled down regardless and hand them over a nice xmas bonus? They have photos and everything of course.

[Nobby the Bastard]

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poor obs
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[Nobby the Bastard]

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[SuperMike]

I think it is definitely the council - the letter is from the borough and nothing seems to be linked to the police. I guess I should be thankful they don't seem to have attracted 3 penalty points a piece?

It would appear that the general consensus here is haha twat? Fair enough. I would say that the camera van was not particularly obvious. Wasn't one of those big transits with a telescope sticking out the back at any rate. No chance of a reprieve then? Bollocks.

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[andyscooter]

if you are turning right before the van how did they get the reg
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[SuperMike]

The van was about 50m before the turn outside a school. I think a lot of the milfs are in the same habit in their Chelsea tractors as it cuts a lot of time off your travel in that direction as otherwise you have to go round the block and through traffic to get to the same spot. On my bike it saves me about 5 mins so in a car you'd be looking at 15 or so I reckon.

Anyway. Lesson learned - I rode too slowly

[MattEMulsion]

Hopefully there are only these two penalty charge notices that are going to drop through your door, is there a chance that there could be some more?
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[Rogerborg]

PePiPoo. Be prepared to actually show the letters, any evidence that the Council have (or say that they have), and pictures of the signage as it is now, and as the Council can show, or claim, that it was when the alleged incidents occurred.

You'll also want to verify that they actually have a valid (temporary) traffic order (TRO / TMO) in place that was properly consulted on and publicly notified.

You can appeal within 14 days to stop the clock on the reduced blackmail amount and by default I'd go with:

Wasn't my bike.
Signage was missing, hidden, and inadequate at the time.
No valid temporary traffic order was in place.

If they believe otherwise, let them make their case.

Also: <Ha-Ha.png>
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Sounds like a permanant no right turn, borg, which is why I thought filth....
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[SuperMike]

I do this every now and again so I hope that there are no more on their way. If there are then I am truly screwed. I can't remember the week in question but I guess I must have been running late a couple of days. Mostly I go the proper way around.

It is alas very well sign posted. There are two pretty big permanent no right turn signs on the road. They have unfortunately done a pretty good job of getting myself in the picture under the no right turn signs.

As for the wasn't my bike sir excuse, am I going to get myself even more in the poo poo with this? It did cross my mind that there must be a cloned bike in the area your honour, and I can't remember if I was riding my bike that way on those two days, but I'm guessing if I get busted things will get very bad for me?

[Nobby the Bastard]

Can the council submit a NIP?
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[SuperMike]

I'm not sure it's a NIP Nobby, it's a PCN. Is that a difference? There are no penalty points attached, just a hefty fine. I'm guessing if the police were involved then I might have had penalty points? That really would have been infuriating. If I'm getting points it is at least going to be for speeding or something similar. Getting 6 points for two illegal right turns would have really pissed me off. I'm kind of over it. Will get them paid end of next week when payday comes around. One of those things I guess like parking tickets and pikeys smashing bits off your bike.

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