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Isn't it the Tory government eroding workers rights? 
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How is the union funded again? They seem to have plenty of cash to throw about for an organisation which charges, what £15 a year to employees in traditionally public sector jobs? |
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Costs of RMT membership for 2016 are as follows:
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Full Rate - £4.68 (Basic salary or equivalent earnings is above £20,700 per annum)
Low Rate - £2.02 (Basic salary or equivalent earnings is below £20,700 per annum)
Four Weekly
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Low Rate - £8.08 (Basic salary or equivalent earnings is below £20,700 per annum)
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FOUR-WEEKLY SUBSCRIPTION SCALE
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■ SCALE 1 (Salaries £35,400 and above) ■ SCALE 2 (Salaries between £29,600 & £35,399)
■ SCALE 3 (Salaries between £18,900 & £29,599) ■ SCALE 4 (Salaries below £18,900)
■ Scale 1 £25.56 ■ Scale 2 £22.52 ■ Scale 3 £15.68 ■ Scale 4 £9.76
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One reason many do not join a union... It costs a fortune to fund someone else to sit on the arse and say "ALL OUT" yet they still get full pay while the actual workers get stung with no wages.....
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Those who don't pay are happy enough to take the hard won Perks the unions tend to get them though, such as above average pay rises etc.
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| Suntan Sid wrote: | | mpd72 wrote: | It's clearly nothing to do with a bunch of militant Labour supporting trade unions attacking the Conservative government because their party are too incompetent to get into power is it? |
Strange then that a tory government, (over paying a plc, currently to the tune of £60M), are, according to you, complicit in the downfall of the tory party! Very strange! |
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| Posted: 17:44 - 27 Dec 2016 Post subject: |
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| iooi wrote: | | mpd72 wrote: |
How is the union funded again? They seem to have plenty of cash to throw about for an organisation which charges, what £15 a year to employees in traditionally public sector jobs? |
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Costs of RMT membership for 2016 are as follows:
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Full Rate - £4.68 (Basic salary or equivalent earnings is above £20,700 per annum)
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Full Rate - £18.72 (Basic salary or equivalent earnings is above £20,700 per annum)
Low Rate - £8.08 (Basic salary or equivalent earnings is below £20,700 per annum)
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Full Rate - £20.28 (Basic salary or equivalent earnings is above £20,700 per annum)
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■ SCALE 3 (Salaries between £18,900 & £29,599) ■ SCALE 4 (Salaries below £18,900)
■ Scale 1 £25.56 ■ Scale 2 £22.52 ■ Scale 3 £15.68 ■ Scale 4 £9.76
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One reason many do not join a union... It costs a fortune to fund someone else to sit on the arse and say "ALL OUT" yet they still get full pay while the actual workers get stung with no wages..... |
I paid £6 a month for my RMT membership and saw it as an insurance policy, they did help people out with disciplinary issues etc. IIRC it costs a grand to take your employer to a tribunal if you're not with a union.
The problem's a lot of people think the union will do all the work, if the workers aren't united and won't stick up for each other they can actually achieve very little. |
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| Val wrote: | | mpd72 wrote: |
That just goes to show how thick the unions are doesn't it?
Or maybe, just maybe, this is all about a load of Corbynista militants waging battle with the Tories again and Southern are not even part of it? |
Are you proposing to make the UK working regulations even weaker then they are currently? Ban "militant" strikes and unions?
FYI I do not belong and never has been in an union.
What I see here as unbiased external observer is the UK has the worst workers protection laws in the developed world (except US and Canada of course they have none).
And all this militant BS is product of your twisted imagination supported by Daily Heil.
mpd72 is actually Hitler and I want my 5 euros!
Hitler didn't like trade unions. He believed that they supported socialism and communism. Trade unions were banned in Germany in May 1933. |
Weak UK workers laws?
What like the skiving shit at my local who's been on full pay "sick" for six months as a postman, even though he's still fit enough to play semi pro football and work his cash in hand gardening business?
How about a minimum wage which when topped up with tax credits and benefits rises from £16,500 to almost £25,000?
You think the unions are responsible for this? Well they are for the first, but not the second. The right wing government have increased wages and lowered tax, by easing income tax bands.
If only we had Bulgarian standards eh?
As for using the Guardian for an unbiased source on "workers rights"?!
Are you really that daft Village? I'm surprised you didn't link to the Social Workers Party. (I clicked to check).
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Weak UK workers laws?
What like the skiving shit at my local who's been on full pay "sick" for six months as a postman, even though he's still fit enough to play semi pro football and work his cash in hand gardening business? |
Get him grassed then. That's nothing to do with workers laws, that's a DWP who are thick as pig shit.
| Quote: | How about a minimum wage which when topped up with tax credits and benefits rises from £16,500 to almost £25,000?
You think the unions are responsible for this? Well they are for the first, but not the second. The right wing government have increased wages and lowered tax, by easing income tax bands. |
And again, you talk bollocks.
The 'raising wages' and 'lowering tax' counts for being better off to the tune of under £50 a year at the lowest level (NMW), not counting for rising costs in life's daily essentials, inflation etc.
If employer's were paying decent wages, the gov wouldn't need to top them up, would they? And don't start with your bollocks about blah blah immigrants, employers were paying shit wages long before the floodgates opened, and not to forget a Labour gov introducing the NMW, for the positives and negatives that gave.
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| Posted: 00:02 - 28 Dec 2016 Post subject: |
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Ah, so in your reality the DWP allow employees 6 months off sick on full pay!
I thought you worked in the private sector?
Best have a chat with your HR.
Prepare to be disappointed.
Mind you, on the planet Bellend, things operate differently. 
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So what you're saying is that the Royal Mail pay full sick pay, and there's no SSP involved?
I know we get SSP if we're off ill, though I've never needed it.
Still, if you know he's on the sick and working cash in hand, grass him up. That's what the Tory gov promotes, shitting on your fellow human being. Why haven't you done it yet? Is it because he knows you buy dodgy stuff and is blackmailing you? 
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| Jewlio Rides Again wrote: | So what you're saying is that the Royal Mail pay full sick pay, and there's no SSP involved?
I know we get SSP if we're off ill, though I've never needed it.
Still, if you know he's on the sick and working cash in hand, grass him up. That's what the Tory gov promotes, shitting on your fellow human being. Why haven't you done it yet? Is it because he knows you buy dodgy stuff and is blackmailing you? |
Apparently yes, sick pay policy is very generous - It happens in the NHS too. This muppet is using the union to try to get him a massive pay off as a kind of early retirement, due to an injury he says he got from having to do a glorified paper round of up to 15km a day walking. He expects to be retired off in his early 30's. Having worker there for almost 15 years, he thinks he's owed this.
SSP is only £88 per week.
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Apparently? Oh, so you don't know then?
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Sounds like a shit excuse to me. Rather than do something productive, you'll sit about and do nothing, and use it as an excuse to tar the majority of the hardworking folk as lazy, grasping fuckers.
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| mpd72 wrote: | | Jewlio Rides Again wrote: | So what you're saying is that the Royal Mail pay full sick pay, and there's no SSP involved?
I know we get SSP if we're off ill, though I've never needed it.
Still, if you know he's on the sick and working cash in hand, grass him up. That's what the Tory gov promotes, shitting on your fellow human being. Why haven't you done it yet? Is it because he knows you buy dodgy stuff and is blackmailing you? |
Apparently yes, sick pay policy is very generous - It happens in the NHS too. This muppet is using the union to try to get him a massive pay off as a kind of early retirement, due to an injury he says he got from having to do a glorified paper round of up to 15km a day walking. He expects to be retired off in his early 30's. Having worker there for almost 15 years, he thinks he's owed this.
SSP is only £88 per week. |
Depends how long you've been with my company but you can get full sick pay for up to 2 months, and that was only after they tightened up the policy due to people taking the piss. One guy worked 4 months in 2 years, because back then that got you the full entitlement for the year.
Another guy who has numerous cases with the company has only worked a few months in 4 years, he's such a trouble maker he's paid to stay at home on full pay Another guy was off with depression for nearly a year until a manager caught him in a local pub in decorators overalls.
They did all this independent of unions. |
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A government body has told a non-government affiliated body that their actions which are detrimental to the government, are not kosher?
Quelle surprise
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