KTM Duke 790

[Az]

https://images.mcn.bauercdn.com/PageFiles/595063/1000x750/KTM-790-DUKE-PROTOTYPE_02.jpg

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2016/november/ktm-790-duke-prototypre-2017-eicma-milan/

https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/watch-ktm-790-duke-prototype-action

https://www.cycleworld.com/ktm-790-duke-prototype-is-here-to-own-middleweight-naked-category

Gorgeous bike (IMO), be interesting to see if it still looks anything like the above if it goes into production.

My guess is that they'll make a production version. It will fall within the A2 license rules, blow every other current parallel twin and current A2 bikes out of the water (on the performance front)... but then the price tag will push most A2 riders away and their will be some reliability issues that surface.

[G]

Really all new, not just a rehashed Husky twin, I wonder.

Be interesting if they can make it properly light.
Then make a lighter SM/enduro/adventure/RC version.

Hope it does stay more towards the premium end than the the relatively budget new small CC road bikes (that are actually heavier than the lighter 690s).

[ScaredyCat]

[stevo as b4]

Hmmm Gorgeous bike you say?

It's like another Alien from the Yamaha design school with a hint of Kawasaki transformers look about it too!

Not for me at all. I like the idea of a simple supermoto version of a light enduro bike, but with a parallel twin, triple or 4pot engine fitted in. If it looked like an EXC enduro with supermoto kit, it would then be sexy enough, but it's too weird and from another world as it is.

The twin/triple/four Street supermotard bike idea is a good one, as IMO when you get much over 400cc, single pot motors don't work too well on.the road for most riders, riding conditions and our roads and the way we drive and ride.

The single cylinder engine is a king of closed circuit competition and as a race on or off engine or for very technical riding conditions. Its not for most people most of the time a great road engine or one that suits many riders that are one bike owners.

Anyway where are the likes of Yamaha, Kawasaki and KTM etc getting their current vehicle designers from? The centre of the Chenoybl reactors location maybe?

[ThatDippyTwat]

[Rogerborg]

[Mawsley]

[Suntan Sid]

[Rogerborg]

[M.C]

'All-new 800cc parallel-twin'

Lost my boner

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[M.C]

I thought it would be a v-twin... https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2014/november/ktm-plan-new-v-twins/

[G]

[M.C]

Good thing they camouflaged it as you might be able to tell what bike it is I'm gonna sound like Paddy here but I think Parallel twins are dire and the leading cause of suicide in males under 45 (fact).

Dukes are relatively tall and light anyway, they could accommodate a v-twin. They've gone for the ghey option and it'll look hideously expensive compared to an MT-07.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azVXkrbPtbo Baklaff revisions for Mod 1?

[G]

[wr6133]

It's so ugly I want to burn it

[M.C]

[G]

So, err, what does inspire you?

Are you seriously saying that a 4 stroke v-twin inspires you?

Care to suggest some models you've found inspiring, regardless of the engine configuration?

Oh it was parrelel twins that you mentioned, not specifiying other characteristics. However beside the point as you can fund revvy 4 stroke road twins when compared to flatter/boringer v-twins of the same ilk.

[owl]

[M.C]

[G]

BMW has/had a single, 800 parallel twin and 1200 boxer twin.

What parallel-twins have you ridden specifically?

I haven't ridden an MT-03 I don't think, but pretty sure I'd find it rather dull - significantly heavier with less go than the 690 KTM.

I'm a bit confused by you saying that it gives it all in one go.
Do you mean you don't have to rev it? (you do, it's just low geared/low revving , which can fool you into not noticing it hasn't got much left on top.)
It doesn't have much torque. It has low gearing. A sports 600 geared the same would be massively more perky in a similar gear. It might have less torque at the engine, but would have a lot more on the road thanks to more favourable gearing ratio (so more power).

To me that description say you get not much, then a big hit at the top - as my KR1S had.

[M.C]

Crap ones, ER5 & 6, I do want to try an MT-07*. I don't disagree about the weight with the MT-03 except you really don't feel it whilst on the move, you know how everyone always says that and they're actually lying , in this case you really don't. It's not a high revving bike, there's nothing to rev. It has (off the top of my head) a bit more torque than a 600 Bandit whilst being at a 30bhp defect.

*I don't recall anyone praising the engine, most of the hysterics come from the novelty of a big bike weighing less than 200kg... and the price.

[G]

Well, there's your issue! Think that was what I was getting to - boring bikes are boring regardless. Fun bikes are fun, if they're powerbandy 2 strokes .
And what v-twins have you ridden to compare?

Your bike seems to have a similar weight to my 675, but with under half the power. Slower steering too, I suspect!
(Ok, that's not an entirely fair comparison.)

Generally I'd say "you don't notice the weight while moving" when you've got acceptable suspension - the issue comes in when you've got inadequate suspension, which then more shows up the weight. When i first rode a bandit 1200 I thought it felt incredibly smooth and light - but then my own bike was a KLR650 with a knackered shock.

[Hokum]

I like KTM, but i]m not a fan of this, so its 2x 390 engines?
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[Polarbear]

That is bloody horrible.
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