KTM Duke 790

SophR so good · Trackday Trickster Joined: 08 Aug 2016 Karma :

Whilst you guys are arguing, can I ask the noob question of how much engine configuration really makes a difference? Google informs me that I've only ridden inline/parallel twins assuming they are the same thing. One was dull as dishwater despite more power, super predictable (er6), the other fun with sudden increases in acceleration depending on revs etc. (r3)
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owl · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Oct 2016 Karma :

an inline twin is just a v twin with 0° of v Cool

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M.C · Super Spammer Joined: 29 Sep 2015 Karma :

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

You very nicely make my point Very Happy

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To keep up at a reasonable speed for the bike, you do need to rev it:
https://images.delkevic.co.uk/product4386_27b.jpg
So to be making what the litre 4s do at around a quarter revs you need to be right at the top of the rev range.

However the bike 'feels' like you'll do just as well lower down.
If it's got dodgy fuelling or you're not very smooth on the throttle that might be another matter to address Smile

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But to 'make progress' I'd definitely be using all the revs available!

(Appreciated not if you're just sitting in traffic etc.)

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Bozzy · Traffic Copper Joined: 20 Dec 2015 Karma :

I quite like it tbh! It looks especially good in the peomo vid KTM have released.

https://youtu.be/azVXkrbPtbo

Apologies for getting back on topic btw Wink

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Doesn't really matter as it's directly comparable to mph unless your clutch is knackered.

You'll see mph if they can't be bothered to connect the sensor for rpm.

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stevo as b4 · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Karma :

All said and done I think engine sound is as important or desirable as character, if not much more so?

People will hear say an RSV 1000 with open cans, and think fucking awesome! But another GSXR or Blade can't do much more than roar then howl on an open pipe. For most people the Aprilia wins if for nothing more than what grabs your hearing senses and maybe emotions.

Singles can sound brilliant or really dull or plain annoying depending on the bike, the pipe and how it's ridden. The same goes for twins and triples as well as the everyman IL4 too. The only configuration I've yet to hear a dull sounding bike from is the in line 6cylinder, but then there's not a huge amount of six pot bikes to sample from.

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Some people like a bike that sounds the same whatever the revs.
For riding, I find that annoying - it took a good while getting used to where to shift up on the SV on track.

And generally I prefer the sport over tractor audio aesthetic too.

So for me the Aprilia grabs my eotions the same as a tractor - great if I need to tow something heavy up a hill! Razz

stevo as b4 · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Karma :

I've never heard an RSV 1000 sound like a tractor, or seen one towing heavy loads up a long hill either! Wink

I'm just getting all concerned now that your backing yourself into a GSXR 1000 shape corner, with maybe a bigger rear sprocket hanging on the wall. Wink

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Perhaps you should go listen to an RSV...
But yes, alas many seem to think twins are for 'sports' rather than hauling fat-arse!