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The sticky-out thing on the left?
https://securityforbikes.com/anti-pinch-pin.php
Although it's supposed to be locked off with a specific Squire lock - it looks OP has secured it by tying a loose knot in the chain. 
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Plus you could hacksaw through the railing in no time. Just saying 
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | Sorry... I still cant find the enthusiasm to care...
https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=98921
What the eff IS that?
No.. first rule... If I have to ask, I probably didn't want to know... and I am almost certain not to be enlightened by the answer......
WHY am I even LOOKING at that?
I think the conclusion is shear morbid curiosity, and dallying.
We need potatoes, to go with the joint of pork in the kitchen... but it's raining outside....
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I decided to buy all the security and all the gear before the bike this was almost 3 months ago now- because of this I didn't know how the chain would fit around the bike. The chain is is short link so one of the ends can't go through the other to put the ss80cs closed shackle around the last end. It would have worked if it was long link. But sadly I chose short because it gives less to get at. I was quite annoyed too because I actually wanted the unpickabe abloy which also has bigger shackle diameter.
I called up pragmasis- that main guy David was awesome- had a 40 min discussion about my set up and what to do and concluded mini antipinch pin. The smallest version in length to leave less exposed. The thin part is blocked off by the squire lock and the rest is 24mm of hardened steel. There is a 5cm circular cap which stops the pin sliding through the hole in the end link. And the squire itself blocks it from sliding out of the other side. Even though shackle is thin impossible to get leverage to bolt crop and I guess anything can be angle grinded and if they even had a min to have a crack at it with grinder and were caught in act say-Id want to replace the whole lock anyway so what does it matter-I obviously know what all the security market looks like now and how everything fits together so next time long link 22mm and abloy.
The specific ss65cs which as Roger says is the only one which works and is designed for this set up is sitting on the seat cowl if you didn't spot it already.
I also needed to go the place to see how an actual protex raincover fit on the cbr not just looking at spec and buying online- and I got home 19:30 from the ride so everywhere was closed. Had no choice but to leave it in the rain for one night. Bought one yesterday from Kings two wheels though so all good.
Also the white sleeves are make do arm oversleeves because I couldn't find a generic chain sleeve big enough to go over it. I duct taped them over each other but it hasn't worked well and they're ripping so I've bought a black proper plastic set from China on ebay (the only thing I can find) which will arrive in two weeks. this is not a security chain but one designed for boat anchoring. It said galvanised which I later found out from David actually weakens fml! Either way does the job though
So I hope that explains the visual ridiculousness for you.
It really makes me angry that we have to think about all this because of scum of the earth that exist. People pay thousands- some people need it to get to work because its way way cheaper than car or train, some people just live and breathe riding and to some it's their whole world yet this shit still happens.
I promised I wouldnt impulsively buy the bike before I could afford absolutely everything needed for this hobby- thats why this took so long-never want to look out of window and feel that sickening feeling in my stomach ever again when it's not there...
EDIT: why can't you find the enthusiasm anyway- cos it's just a 125? You're breaking my heart man  
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| Arcane1729 wrote: | | Teflon-Mike wrote: | No.. first rule... If I have to ask, I probably didn't want to know... and I am almost certain not to be enlightened by the answer...... |
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I suspect you missed the first rule.
Y-e-r-s.. I have kids your age... rhetoric IS wasted on you, isn't it? (That's rhetorical BTW))
| Arcane1729 wrote: | some people just live and breathe riding and to some it's their whole world yet this shit still happens. |
Y-e-r-s... WE do.... and some of us twice your life time or more of it..... and it still does....
See 'The first rule'... do you want a list? would it really 'enlighten' you? would you derive ANY meaning from my explanation, what so ever?
No, It is NOT because it is a 125.
I rather 'like' 125's... I actually still own more than one or two of them! I appreciate them for qualities, I strongly suspect would be utterly incomprehensible to you.
This post is rather like watching, not quite a train wreck... but a driver bump into the buffers a bit hard.... there's a certain degree of inevitability, to the mundanity, but morbid fascination keeps drawing us back, in the hope of witnessing the train wreck we know isn't actually going to happen.... but might, or at least the driver fall drunkenly out of the door!!
If that is any solace, this is still a little more enthusiasm than I can muster to solve the Sunday-dinner potato problem.... though a count of remaining cigarettes might boost that a little in the next twenty minutes.
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Your posts are like trying to decipher a code. Plus you're just being unnecessarily mean now for reasons I don't know nor care for, so I'm not gonna bother replying to you anymore after this post...
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Well done on sorting your gear, most people (our age) overlook that (as did I for some time, paid the price).
Could I suggest leaving the bike as it is? I've owned one and I'm sure it's near damn impossible to make that thing anywhere near as exciting as a big bike, spend your time on it and save up for your license, then get a big bike, play with that.
As for your lock question, I've got no issues locking to my wheel, because I think if a thief is dedicated enough to take out your wheel, pretty sure he'll more than happily rip through a chain too.
Anyway, I'd suggest a long chain (1.5m+) so that you have options when parking in unfamiliar places, so you can reach lampposts from the road etc. your current one seems a bit short from what you're saying.
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| rapt0r1997 wrote: | Well done on sorting your gear, most people (our age) overlook that (as did I for some time, paid the price).
Could I suggest leaving the bike as it is? I've owned one and I'm sure it's near damn impossible to make that thing anywhere near as exciting as a big bike, spend your time on it and save up for your license, then get a big bike, play with that.
As for your lock question, I've got no issues locking to my wheel, because I think if a thief is dedicated enough to take out your wheel, pretty sure he'll more than happily rip through a chain too.
Anyway, I'd suggest a long chain (1.5m+) so that you have options when parking in unfamiliar places, so you can reach lampposts from the road etc. your current one seems a bit short from what you're saying.
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I've already got the money for both of those assuming the current bike sells for even two grand- it's experience that's lacking- the lock system is lesson learned for next bike but it'll do for now
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| Arcane1729 wrote: | | rapt0r1997 wrote: | Well done on sorting your gear, most people (our age) overlook that (as did I for some time, paid the price).
Could I suggest leaving the bike as it is? I've owned one and I'm sure it's near damn impossible to make that thing anywhere near as exciting as a big bike, spend your time on it and save up for your license, then get a big bike, play with that.
As for your lock question, I've got no issues locking to my wheel, because I think if a thief is dedicated enough to take out your wheel, pretty sure he'll more than happily rip through a chain too.
Anyway, I'd suggest a long chain (1.5m+) so that you have options when parking in unfamiliar places, so you can reach lampposts from the road etc. your current one seems a bit short from what you're saying.
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I've already got the money for both of those assuming the current bike sells for even two grand- it's experience that's lacking- the lock system is lesson learned for next bike but it'll do for now |
3 months on a CBR was more than enough for me, the second I jumped onto a 33bhp CB500 (for my test) I felt more than at home, and the second I jumped onto my er6 (current bike) I felt fantastic, my first ride was all the way home for around 40/50 miles I believe, in fact life becomes easier, you're on a heavier and more planted machine.
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| Ste wrote: | | rapt0r1997 wrote: | As for your lock question, I've got no issues locking to my wheel, because I think if a thief is dedicated enough to take out your wheel, pretty sure he'll more than happily rip through a chain too. |
Taking the front wheel off is quicker and easier than cutting through a big chain. However I can't see a thief bothering with that for a ER6 or a CBR125. 
If you're going to just put the chain through a wheel then put it through the back wheel because it's more hassle to remove the back wheel than it is the front. 
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Yes, thankfully only I see my ER6 as the prettiest and most desirable thing in the world, and not the thieves .
I see why thieves with a Van would do it, but surely the ones with peds can no longer roll it away?! They're one of my bigger concerns at the moment to be honest, since I mainly park away at Central London places, and I reckon it's inconvenient for Van thieves to go there, but Peds are always around, I see them running around more often than not. |
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There's a good chance that bikes pushed away by kids on peds will be loaded into a van somewhere nearby, it all just come down to how much they want your bike.
Jumping you once you've unlocked your bike could be more straight forward than removing the front wheel and manhandling the bike into the back of a van but who knows how they decide which bike to target. |
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