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Posted: 20:15 - 04 Jan 2017 Post subject: |
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I suspect that the previous owner has just lost the V5C. He can't meaningfully have "sent it in" - without new keeper details, DVLA can't and won't do anything with it.
You want the simplest, quickest solution, that won't result in either you or the previous keeper being pumped?
Send a letter to:
DVLA
Swansea
SA99 1BA
Head it with the name and address of the previous keeper. Say that "you" (i.e. the old keeper) have sold the vehicle to actually-you, but that you've lost the V5C. Include the:
vehicle registration number
make and model
exact date of sale
name and address of the new keeper (i.e. actually-you)
See:
https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle/y/no/sold-it/sold-it-privately-to-a-person-or-business
If you're a-scared of getting 20 years in Strangeways, print out the exact same letter, then just get the old keeper to sign it. That keeps both of you square with The Man.
DVLA don't check signatures though, so you could just scrawl any old squiggle on it - I've done that with V5Cs before, no problems.
If this looks like a quicker, cheaper way than sending in a V62 request form and a £25 bribe for the DVLA to do the job that our taxes already pay for, I believe that it is. Don't let them know that the jig is up. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
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Dave_80 wrote: | If you have bought a bike and not received a V5 after four weeks or so you can apply using a V62 fill in all the details and as a new keeper you don't need to pay the £25 as I read it. |
You do, unless you send in the V5C/2 new keeper slip, which OP doesn't have.
I was going to suggest sending in a V62 without any money and damning their eyes, but then I had the epiphany that sending in a letter "from" the previous keeper is more direct, helps them out too, and there's no requirement to pay anything. Heck, Royal Fail might even deliver it without a stamp on it. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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BillyJ wrote: | Ok.... So the old owner sent the v5 off changing the keeper to a random address so he would stop getting tickets for the bike since it had been left for a while and the parking tickets were stacking up. |
Gutsy/pikey move, I hope that doesn't come back to sting him.
BillyJ wrote: | So surely I just pay £25 and get it in my name? |
Yup. V62, monies, and wait. DVLA will write to J. Fakename at 69 Fakestreet, and wait for a response. When they don't get it, at some point they'll transfer keepership to you. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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BillyJ wrote: | So what do I put? I'm the new keeper with date of change being after the last parking ticket and say the v5 was lost? |
Sure, "It has been lost, stolen, damaged or destroyed".
I might give them a contact email address but definitely not a phone number - no need to risk being flustered by an unexpected call.
You can't unscrew the previous owner, but you don't have to do anything to help DVLA bum him either. In the unlikely event that they do get in touch, just stick to your story that you believe that the V5C was lost before you bought the vehicle.
You've done nothing wrong, and the DVLA won't care about you - they'll just be happy to have someone to mug in future. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Exactly. They can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt which of you had it between the date the previous keeper said he'd passed it on to Mr Fakename, and the date you say you got it, which I would cheerfully put as today (the V5C being a liability, not an asset, as the previous keeper discovered).
No chance of a conviction for anyone, so no chance of a prosecution for anyone.
As the new keeper, you in particular are under no statutory obligation to tell them anything, not from whom or where or when or even that you obtained it. You're doing them a favour. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Being the registered keeper is not the same as being the owner. Says so on the document itself.
So he can have been the owner and is perfectly at liberty to sell/give it to you but not be the registered keeper.
If I were you, I would have a bill of sale made up between the two of you and both sign it. Make sure the date is on there. You can download templates. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 106 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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