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Not a lot.
Fun's is not in the bike... it's in what you do with it.
A lot of 'UN-FUN' can be in the bike...... particularly if they aren't working for any reason... but beyond that, its pretty much all in the rider's attitude and expectation.
Gve me bikes other people think of as being 'fun', and it's often utterly lost on me; give me a bike no one would think of as being much fun, and I've often found them a hoot....
Eg pigging about with unloved 125 Super-Dreams! 'Fun' is the fact it actually WORKS! Then indulging in post juvenile juvenile antics on the thing, forgetting I'm closer to fifty than fifteen, NOT taking the thing very seriously, worrying about scamera boxes or the price of tyres or the 'doom and gloom' of bending the thing!
I cant think of anything less inspiring to ride than a VFR.... yet, the lack of 'un-fun' get on and go do, fun to be had, NOT in the riding, but simply being, somewhere, in the saddle or somewhere but sat at home; the fun is beyond the bike, making it a means to an end not an end in itself...
THAT is where the fun is to be found, NOT in the bike. ANY bike can be 'fun' if the riders attitude and expectations are in the right place.. if not? Pot luck whether there will be any fun to be had with anything! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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A sense of eagerness. I'd even suggest that speed is the enemy of fun, because once you've got there, what next?
I agree that the F800GS (and variants) is more competent than fun. That's why I use that for long trips or commuting in manky weather, but have alternatives available for larks.
The Enfield is very engaging when I'm in the mood. Crude, a bit of a handful compared to anything remotely modern, and it needs more forward planning, but that's rather the point - to get more involved in the process. You can never forget that you're riding something that hasn't developed that much since the 1950s.
The Ninja can be comprehensively thrashed on a public road, using the rev limiter as an ersatz quickshifter. Revvvvvv-14K-bang-up, revvvvvv-14K-bang-up, I must be doing... oh, 55 mph.
But it's also a surprisingly flexible little engine, holding an indicated 30 in 6th without struggling, even up slight inclines. That, I did not expect. A 250 really is all the bike you need for commuting, and I find that exploiting every bit of its, or the Enfield's, performance more actively rewarding than dawdling along at 1/4 throttle on the Nazi Tractor. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Fun - very subjective and personal term where bikes are concerned.
For me, the bike I managed to have the most 'fun' on was the 1200 Bandit. They are just daft, big torque, absolute peach of a super smooth engine, quick for what they are, comfy, wheelie machines, traffic light drag racers, sound awesome with a stubby can on. What more could you want from a bike (apart from being a bit lighter)? Went to Santa Pod twice on it and abused it down the 1/4 mile.
It was a bike you could just jump on, ride, and it put a smile on my face every time. My ZX6 is lighter and handles better but it's a buzzy 600 so it needs to be revved. The ZX12 is an outright straight line speed monster but hard work on twisty stuff.
i may have just talked myself into buying another 1200 Bandit ____________________ stinkwheel: He had an animated .gif of a cat performing fellatio. It's not socially acceptable. It can have real life adverse effects on other people. |
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Summer Warm sunshine and dry roads. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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M.C wrote: | Bikes are by default fun IMO. It takes some special effort for one not to be. |
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I believe that if you know exactly how a particular bike handles and performs in various conditions, it's a fun bike. That's probably why most people enjoy riding smaller bikes from time to time. You can extract a greater proportion of the overall performance available to you from them, than you can on litre sports bikes when riding on the road. Some people can get a lot of enjoyment out of very large and powerful bikes as well, but the majority of riders perhaps don't, and just want to be seen as man enough to handle them (only with lots of rider aids, etc.)
I also believe that a lot of people who ride bikes don't enjoy them at all, because they don't really like bikes but rather something else they associate with them. For example, someone asked, some time ago, why they shouldn't get a cruiser as a first bike. A physical man, more in-the-moment, who lives out in the country, deserves to know the truth, that to develop bike skills you're better off with a design other than the geometry of a cruiser. A sedentary man, living in London, only interested in being noticed by women, not really confident and doesn't like anything about bikes apart from being 'liked' by the clueless by pretending to be someone else for an hour or so, may as well buy the cruiser his heart desires, because his main focus is the ancillary benefit. So his enjoyment will be based all on the noise and appearance he makes, rather than actually handling and experiencing the physics of a bike.
All the people like different things. It's probably quite rare for someone to enjoy the experience of riding bikes. ____________________ Safety in numbers |
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Tawny wrote: | It's probably quite rare for someone to enjoy the experience of riding bikes. |
U wot m8? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 20:07 - 06 Jan 2017 Post subject: |
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Loads of torque and loudness
You don't need to be doing 150mph to be having fun, just punching about on a big single or v-twin at lower speeds is just as much fun. |
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Tawny wrote: | Think of it as golf in the 80s. |
Now you've really lost me ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Is less weight more power not all that a fun bike would strive for?
I used to ride a VT 125 shadow and can confirm that the opposite, more weight less power, is not much fun. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 111 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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