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None. Yet. But because of the suspension (maybe), I just don't feel I want to push it as much as I will the Fazer. Plus, it's more stone walls than hedges around here; bit less forgiving ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 16:39 - 07 Jan 2017 Post subject: |
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Ah; you beat me to it .
I've had a lot more. Though generally not intentionally trying to push the limits of traction to be fair.
Do you at least have plenty of rear wheel slides?
On a lot of English roads I find it's the road it's self that's the limiting factor on a lot of bikes (ie 55hp+) anyway - visibility and so on limits how much I want to open it up. |
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G wrote: |
I've had a lot more. |
I'm not quite sure what this says about your riding
Or mine for that matter
Quote: | Do you at least have plenty of rear wheel slides? |
Not so much since Pilot Road tyres I have, however, had the pegs down on the Fazer a lot since switching to these (years ago now). But only on Welsh roads and in Europe.*
Quote: | On a lot of English roads I find it's the road it's self that's the limiting factor on a lot of bikes (ie 55hp+) anyway - visibility and so on limits how much I want to open it up. |
English roads are mostly crap. No point pushing it too much when you know the odds are stacked against you already anyway.
*A long time ago, when I had my GSXR750 slabby, there were a few places where I'd actually use a bit of rear wheel steering, deliberately cracking the throttle at a certain point in a corner to break rear traction to get pointed out for the exit. Then some "what ifs" crept into my mind, and I packed that in. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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So it's in a way less fun then? |
FTFY ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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So crashing's fun? |
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Posted: 18:28 - 07 Jan 2017 Post subject: |
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Fun?
I think the danger that I may not get home again on it as it will break down on me anywhere. I like the gambling of unreliable bikes. I like having something that will just about touch a hundred with a lot of winding it up.
I hated my Varadero 125 with a passion, excellent bit of kit, but it always started everytime and never wanted for anything. It then got from a to b without a fuss and was cheap to run.
My crossers are great because there is always something stupid about to happen. The engines are far more capable than the chassis, so you bounce along like a pogo stick and fail to stop when necessary. You can wheelie it dead easy and the knobblie tyres never grip the road, you can then go wherever you want on them, my CB400 doesn't go offroad very well. And you get the risk of something going wrong because you ride the snot out of them and have ruined their reliable reputation. ____________________ Current:1991 Honda MT50 (Soon to be a H100/MTX/MT5 hybrid), 1976 Honda Cub C70, 2005 Honda Varadero 125, 1993 Yamaha TTR250 Open Enduro , 2010 Road Legal Stomp YX140, 1994 Honda CRM 250 MK III, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 1992 Honda CB400 Super Four, Stomp T4 230, 1984 Honda H100s, 2009 Sym XS125K
Past:2003 Aprilia RS125, 1982 Kawasaki GPZ550(FREE BIKE!)
I'm having more fun than a well-oiled midget. |
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M.C wrote: | So crashing's fun? |
No The risk of crashing adds to the fun of riding (for me).* Probably in the same way that the risk of falling in climbing adds to the thrill. If you didn't like the risk, you wouldn't ride (you can't tell me you're not aware of the risks).
On a side note, somewhere, I read an article that listed all the different terms climbers had for falling, peeling being the only one I can recall now - it is, I guess, a way of playing down the consequences of ucking fup, much in the way that the military have a pretty black sense of humour; something I think motorcyclists generally have in common. So I suppose it means that we do accept risk, maybe expect it. I would also suggest that many motorcyclists also ride because of the risks to one degree or another; I don't accept that it's just me, and don't entirely accept it when others say it doesn't play a part in why they ride, at least subconsciously.
*but there are limits to how much risk I'll accept. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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G wrote: | Pegs down I don't like - it's very much the wrong type of 'edge of traction' on the road for me. You're probably fine, but have them catch in something and it's a very binary 'fine' to 'Oh ****'. Believe someone from a hornet forum died doing this. |
I've done far more risky things on a bike. People talk about the risk of losing a kneecap if you get your knee down on the road. Yes, we know it can happen; doesn't stop many from doing it though. Personally, that's just not my style of riding, for better or worse. G, you've crashed many times on the road, so some of those times you must have been taking risks, judging by the ride you talk - I certainly don't believe you stay within all speed limits for example. Maybe you didn't have a peg down, but you were doing something else that ended up in a crash - and if you crash on the road, you yourself have pointed out the dangers of road furniture, traffic etc. So you could have come off just as badly as I did when I hit that car head on in '91.
Oh, and the tyres have never felt like they were about to let go when I've had the pegs dragging. On one occasion, I found myself in the position of just having to lay the bike that far over because of the way I'd gone into the corner. Bounced the damn thing off the tarmac, but still no sense of losing traction. That put a grin on my face once I knew I'd gotten away with it ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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You're not trying hard enough ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I think that was my original point - I don't want to 'try hard' on the road .
Note; actually 8 years ago, but once I left that job haven't had the need to ride on the road that much, so very sporadic. |
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G wrote: | I think that was my original point - I don't want to 'try hard' on the road .
haven't had the need to ride on the road that much |
Well aren't you the lucky one. I'm getting a crick in my neck from craning up at you on your high horse Gotta get my kicks somewhere, and as I said, if it wasn't bikes, it'd be something else. And as I've also said, I like to think i'm reining it in enough (nowadays ) to reduce the risks to an acceptable level. Unless you fancy paying for me to get in plenty of track time? Nope, thought not ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I dunno, I get more of a pure sense of freedom from my mountain bike riding, than from road riding motorbikes. But if you go out without all the gear, no helmet etc and go flying down a loose steep downhill track that's tree lined both sides, you could easily fuck oneself up quite well from making a small mistake?
I don't really seek that what if risk, but I do find there's something more basic and closer to disaster occuring from riding my MTB generally. Its all interesting though, as im fairly sure I could not give up mountain biking for motorbike riding as an either/or, and I'd miss it more than road riding a motorbike.
In fact if the roads are or were quiet, I'd sometimes be just as happy hooning in my car as on a motorbike these days. I think if I was seriously into off road biking still then it would be different, as there is some real buzz from off roading generally or so I've always felt.
I think if using a bike to say ride from one place to another say 50miles away, it could be a scooter or bike and any type or size and I'd still feel about the same level of enjoyment from the journey? |
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GT200Fan79 wrote: | M.C wrote: |
The risk doesn't appeal to me at all, I don't relish the prospect of spending the rest of my life in a wheel chair, or losing a limb etc. I like riding, it's why I also really enjoy cycling, my perfect mode of transport would be somewhere between the two. |
Good job you ride a Yamaha 660, I wouldn't worry too much about risk... |
Because it makes a difference whether you're on a 125 or litre bike when someone pulls out in front of you.
stevo as b4 wrote: | I dunno, I get more of a pure sense of freedom from my mountain bike riding, than from road riding motorbikes. But if you go out without all the gear, no helmet etc and go flying down a loose steep downhill track that's tree lined both sides, you could easily fuck oneself up quite well from making a small mistake?
I don't really seek that what if risk, but I do find there's something more basic and closer to disaster occuring from riding my MTB generally. Its all interesting though, as im fairly sure I could not give up mountain biking for motorbike riding as an either/or, and I'd miss it more than road riding a motorbike. |
It depends what your idea of mountain biking is, mines a bimble round the woods so there isn't much chance of coming off |
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M.C wrote: | I don't relish the prospect of spending the rest of my life in a wheel chair, or losing a limb etc. |
M.C wrote: | when someone pulls out in front of you. |
You think about this sort of thing a lot, don't you. If I thought about these things all the time, I don't think I'd ever get on a bike. It's why I don't tend to watch crash videos. I know what can happen, I don't need to have it rammed down my throat all the time. Sheesh, life's too short for all that stuff. Good way to ensure you don't have fun on a bike.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 103 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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