Euro, Greece, etc.

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Very interesting discussion that relates to the Eurozone and the Greece crisis. Also some discussion on the EU structure and the apparent real make up of power and influence.

https://youtu.be/2WG-uEND74E?t=6m26s

This is related https://wikileaks.org/imf-internal-20160319/transcript/IMF%20Anticipates%20Greek%20Disaster.pdf
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[Rogerborg]

Far tl;dw / tl;dr.

As far as I'm aware, the crib notes are that a succession of governments bought power by looking the other way over mass tax evasion, and allowing and encouraging Greeks to retire far too early from their non-job-for-life in the Ministry of Makework.

https://artfulanxiety.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/pdvd_056.jpg

Despite paper growth up to 2007, real incomes dropped, tax revenue dropped sharply, and post crash, neither the public nor private sectors can afford to fund the young to work their way out of recession despite there being an increasing need for it.

Solutions:

1) Cull the old Get geezers off their retsina soaked arses and back to producing things out of patriotic zeal.

2) Leave the Euro, devalue like gangbusters to stimulate their exports, while printing Drogna like they're going out of fashion. Take the inflationary hit in order to actually get people working again.

As it is, a few tens of billions here, a few hundred billions there, are just keeping them on life support and are mostly being swallowed up servicing existing debts with Franco-Prussian banks.

It seems neither sustainable, nor kind.
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[Rob Fzs]

It's all a real mess.

Too much reliance on finance, Germans in a power struggle, Greece is forever bust whilst in the Euro zone, if they debt written off, big banks go down the shitter, but they're all stuck in the euro zone because of political ideology

It's all well and good us plebs thinking up idea's but the people at the top won't do it unless they're dragged in to the streets and hung.

Thank god we sort of, were unravelled from the Eu tenticles, for the time being.
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[Rogerborg]

tl;dr summary of tl;dr - Greeks quit when the going gets tough.
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[Rob Fzs]

Whats the reason for posting a pic of pjw?
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Rogers crush
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[Rogerborg]

Scared me straight.
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I have to admit, if I see his mug I just think Shouty McShoutface.
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[Rob Fzs]

He say's what most people think, but meh, that's nothing radical to me.
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[Suntan Sid]

Germany, France and the USA are playing Greece and Turkey off against each other!
They Sell arms to Greece, knowing the Greek hatred/distrust of the Turks.
The same three countries are selling arms to Turkey, knowing the Turks hatred/distrust of Greece and, err, pretty much anything non Turkish!

Germany and France are, no doubt, more than happy with a Greek bailout, effectively the Bailout money goes directly back into their own economies, for the arms they're selling!
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[Kawasaki Jimbo]

It appears that Iceland's economy was a victim of bad banking.
With the people's consent,

[Rogerborg]

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[Rogerborg]

They might as well. And move to a barter economy based on:

https://images.costcobusinessdelivery.com/image/media/350-150818__1.jpg
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[Rogerborg]

You're having a laugh, that's owner abuse, that is, have you been storing them in the sea or something? (Paraphrase of actual BMW Motorrad response to vehicle corrosion)
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Similar discussion, same topic, no Noam triggering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DP_v8f8ihs
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