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Posted: 08:56 - 04 Jul 2017 Post subject: |
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It is looking good mate, real good!
What is the cost on this then, if you don't mind sharing? Whilst it isn't something I'd enjoy personally, it does look nice |
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Braking/handling vastly improved, 120/60/17 in the front and 150/60/18 in the back, BT090s. Bluespots and decent master cylinder. More modern shock in the rear with greater damping and slightly stiffer spring rate, as well as an inch longer so speedier change of direction. Fully adjustable and stiffer front forks from tbe Thundercat.
Motor main limiting factor as air cooled and 8v but performance/breathing improved by modded airbox, KnN, free flowing 4-1 pipe, advanced ignition and a bit of carb fiddling. Gps'd 124 mph, believe Yamaha quote 115 top whack standard. If some larger carbs (28mm stock) could be fitted then more power could be gotten. Accelerated like a Bandit 600, slightly lower top end of the Divvy indicates slight power defeceit being offset by slightly lower weight. Early Fz and Fj 600s use similar tech but 32/34mm carbs and make 70ish horsepower.
Coolest thing: it's a div but goes like a 400 sportsbike and handles too!
Sidenote, Divvies sound amazing on open pipes! ____________________ Bikes: too many, too much for one man to maintain anyway. |
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Sorry chap, they are Shinko SR-241s. They are omni-directional and 3.00/18 front and 3.50/18 rear. They are unavailable in this country but I imported a set from Germany. They are a trials tyre but are available in far more sizes than most offer.
Sorry about the silencer. Tell you what, next time you are paying to have a bike built you can pick it rather than them aye? ____________________ Bikes: too many, too much for one man to maintain anyway. |
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Glad your customer really liked the special you built him, and it sounds like he'll get plenty of use out of it and it'll be a good bike for his needs too. Not to mention it'll be a unique bike that no-one else has so that's worth a few quid in my book.
I totally get your Point about if you'd started with an XL125R it would have not been the same, or had the style or simplicity or elegance that your build has.
Its just I do like to see quality engineering and nice work, and a blinged up XL125R for example with lots of tarty anodised parts on, and fancy shocks and chassis parts would have been much more exciting for my little mind, even if it didn't look a patch on this bike.
Im getting torn now about whether to add silly blue silicone hoses and tarty parts to my KMX 125 or leave it kind of as std looking as possible or at least close to it. Even at my age bling and tart factor still grabs me like a kid. |
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cheers pal will look into them and re the silencer yep that's fair enough the customer is always right I guess. |
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stevo as b4 wrote: | Is there enough money in custom bike work, and modification to actually make a living though would you say?
I see it being entirely depending on the economic conditions of the time, and also tapping into 40-50+ yr olds nostalgia and the grey pound.
The thing is though I see this market drying up, as the older guys with 60's-90's bikes that are spending silly to get their nostalgia kicks, or build replicas of their back in the day bikes, are all getting older and fewer even if they have good money to spend.
Secondly the demand and thus prices of all the trophy nostalgic bikes like LC's and 500YPVS's, means that more people want them than there are actual bikes left out there to restore/modify.
I can't see in 20years Lexmoto and Pulse Adrenaline memories fueling silly spending by old blokes on special builds. These bikes probably don't even last long enough to become nostalgic before they get melted down anyway? |
It's a genuine point, however there is a slightly misleading thing in this in that I belong to a company called Thunderheart that produces custom motorcycles of any type. I have avoided saying this due to the nature of this forum and the general disparagement of folks that plug their wares here. I, and we, are capable of producing anything that people want. We are not limited to the production of retro 125s, there are hyper modified sportsbikes, Custom build british motor chops, uber build harleys etc. I just happen to specialise in the production of custom small capacity machines. But I could also build a turbo drag bike, like mine.
I have a genuine belief that as the value of certain motorcycles increases, the number 'remaining' will go up. British values have risen an enormous amount in the last 10 years, and as such people are pulling bikes previously written off as economically unfeasible for repair, into the light of day and out of their garages/sheds/gardens. I went to Popham last year and there were fields... and fields... of 'rare' British bikes. You wouldn't have seen them 10 years ago, they were a rare sight as let's face it, when out of fashion they are unreliable, pain in the arse litter pieces of crap compared to Jap machines. Now they are worth money, people are putting up with the shit that comes with the facets of restoration and ownership (such as production tolerances measured in inches, not microns) because they are in fashion. Tellingly I was on my pretty mint GS550 and despite these being almost infinitely superior in terms of a vintage motorcycle to a similar age British there were only 4 in the entire place.
What I'm saying is that as long as people have money to spend and an obsession with having something 'in vogue' there will be a market. If the market changes we will follow, just like any other business.
The other thing is, there never used to be any money in custom bike building, it was a game for broke, passionate fools that didn't want to churn out race parts for the far more successful side of the motorcycle business. Shows like OCC have blown the market wide open, with people realising they don't have to put up with the design choices made by manufacturers and are free to indulge themselves in their own taste (or lack of it) as long as they can pay for the privilege.
It's a cynical view, but one that is presently fairly lucrative. I certainly have no intention of working in a management supermarket retail job for the rest of my life, and this is a way out. Don't take that as a lack of passion though, I take great pride in building stuff and everything I/we do is meticulous and hand made. To be able to support myself doing such a thing would be a dream come true. ____________________ Bikes: too many, too much for one man to maintain anyway. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 291 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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