Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Exhausts from China/Ali-Express type

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat Goto page 1, 2  Next
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

definitelyinc...
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 09 Nov 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:17 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Exhausts from China/Ali-Express type Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

Has anyone got experiences purchasing exhausts from Ali-Express and other places, where the exhausts come from China, I'm looking at them, full systems, for (what look to be) my bike (2013 ER6N).

I'm tempted of spending £150/200 on one of these rather than £400/500+ on the branded exhausts, as it will take a while for me to save up, considering I've also got other modifications planned, and this is by no means the most urgent purchase.

Has anyone purchased any of these unbranded exhausts for their bikes, experiences?

(
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ER6N-ER6F-NINJA650-Motorcycle-Exhaust-Muffler-for-Kawasaki-ER6N-ER6F-NINJA650-2012-2016/32788764419.html?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/GT-Motor-Full-Exhaust-System-and-Carbon-Fiber-Muffler-for-Kawasaki-ER6N-ER6F-Ninja650R-2012-2016/32687766769.html?
)

(Slip ons are not an option as my exhaust is a one-piece, unless I invest in older headers, I have to invest in a full system)

Cheers
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Bonnie Lad
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 24 May 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:29 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Superb, another 'what tat can I stick on my commuter shed' thread from raptor1223455xxxL4lyf

Protip: learn to ride the thing first Thumbs Up
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

definitelyinc...
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 09 Nov 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:35 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonnie Lad wrote:
Superb, another 'what tat can I stick on my commuter shed' thread from raptor1223455xxxL4lyf

Protip: learn to ride the thing first Thumbs Up


I'm doing my best to learn riding it as well as I can Smile

And yes, I'm asking whether people have experiences of sticking said tats on their bikes. Smile
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

tom_e
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 27 Feb 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:01 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you not just chop the original can off and put an aftermarket slip on on the end? This is the only way to fit a new end can to my bike so it's not unusual.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

definitelyinc...
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 09 Nov 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:10 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_e wrote:
Can you not just chop the original can off and put an aftermarket slip on on the end? This is the only way to fit a new end can to my bike so it's not unusual.


You mean welding? It's possible I guess, but at the same time I could get this full system for (probably) less than a branded slip on even lol.

So far I found 1 or 2 posts that didn't have many replies but the ones that did said they were surprisingly good, I'm just hoping for some more replies with this being a large forum, it certainly seems like a good option at this point.

If I decide not to go down this route rather than chop I'll most likely grab headers from a previous generation and slip a slip on with that, as they are interchangeable from what I hear Smile Thumbs Up so this is the next option for me if a full system doesn't workout.

I am struggling to find any used full systems for mine, however if I go for last gen i could probably find a fair few I'd imagine.

Thank you for your suggestion though! Smile


Last edited by definitelyincompetent on 16:11 - 13 Jan 2017; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

redeem ouzzer
World Chat Champion



Joined: 06 Oct 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:11 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save the money for a sportsbike when you get a proper licence.

Or some track days.
____________________
Be a REAL MAN!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

definitelyinc...
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 09 Nov 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:18 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT200Fan79 wrote:
Save the money for a sportsbike when you get a proper licence.

Or some track days.


All in good time my friend Smile

This isn't even about racing, I'm just rather jelly of all the throatier bikes that I see and want mine the same way.

Track days will be a maybe for me, once I get my bikes upgrades all in order and once I sort out (hopefully) my second bike, tough life of an apprentice Smile
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

tom_e
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 27 Feb 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:28 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need to weld anything, slip ons can be clamped onto the existing pipe.

I've got a cheap Chinese slip on from Aliexpress as I wanted to try a stubby one, it's now in my shed as a backup. It weighs an absolute ton and the quality is a bit rough if you get up close.

I wouldn't want to try they're full systems I imagine they'll rust through pretty quickly, fit won't be great and they'll probably add weight rather than take it away.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

definitelyinc...
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 09 Nov 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:41 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_e wrote:
No need to weld anything, slip ons can be clamped onto the existing pipe.

I've got a cheap Chinese slip on from Aliexpress as I wanted to try a stubby one, it's now in my shed as a backup. It weighs an absolute ton and the quality is a bit rough if you get up close.

I wouldn't want to try they're full systems I imagine they'll rust through pretty quickly, fit won't be great and they'll probably add weight rather than take it away.


Lots of forums saying I'd need to weld it on, can't confirm though.


ER6N has a fat exhaust, 7.9KG, apparently the one on there is 5kg and another is 3.5kg, according to ALI-Express it's refundable if not as described, so then I can just ask for a refund if I weight it and find it to be heavier.

Regarding the rusting there's ways to prevent it and clean it, if it turns out really bad I'm sure I will be able to replace it, once it does go really bad, I'll just have to do my best to prevent it if it's an issue Smile

Also since you did buy one, how was the sound?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Baffler186
World Chat Champion



Joined: 31 May 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:21 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapt0r1997 wrote:
according to ALI-Express it's refundable if not as described
it will be as described, you'll get an exhaust. You won't be able to return it in 6 months if it starts to rot. You can't keep the inside clean and oiled, that's where it'll start.

Why don't you get a used, branded end can. Chop yours and get the correct size gasket. You can use all sorts of gauze, putties and sealants, but if the sizing and gaskets are appropriate you should get a good seal. Not much point (IMHO) shelling out for a low quality full system, if you only want a louder can.
____________________
Current: 2009 SV650 S, 1990 Kawasaki GT550
Previous: 2009 CBF125, 1998 GSF600, 2004 FZ6 Fazer, 1978 CB400a Hondamatic
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

definitelyinc...
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 09 Nov 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:25 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baffler186 wrote:
rapt0r1997 wrote:
according to ALI-Express it's refundable if not as described
it will be as described, you'll get an exhaust. You won't be able to return it in 6 months if it starts to rot. You can't keep the inside clean and oiled, that's where it'll start.

Why don't you get a used, branded end can. Chop yours and get the correct size gasket. You can use all sorts of gauze, putties and sealants, but if the sizing and gaskets are appropriate you should get a good seal. Not much point (IMHO) shelling out for a low quality full system, if you only want a louder can.


The item is as described, yes, an exhaust, but the description claims 5KG, if it turns out more then it's not as described surely?

Anyway, other points noted, might just fork out on a used end can for previous gen provided I find a cheap enough can for previous gen, current gen has none at all as it's seen as a full system only bike, and to get something going it's either chop or previous system headers and can.

Going to research soon, at work right now so I shouldn't be doing this :s
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

P.
Red Rocket



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:48 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call delkevic. Ask for their assistance.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Petemate
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 13 Nov 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:00 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

From experience, the following:-
During the (budget) restoration of my little 250 Custom Honda, I purchased a full system from The Motor Lodge. Cost 110GBP. It is rusting badly, and the appearance leads me to believe that there was just a quick layer of chrome plate applied straight to the bare metal with no other treatment first.
For the cost, I suppose the system is good performance-wise. However, as I do not see what I could possibly have done to avoid the rusting. I am regarding the system as a 'consumable' item. The original is no longer available new, (the bike is virtually a CM125C but for bore and stroke) and even if the CM125C system was available OEM new, no good as with the engine being a shorter bore, the second radii of the headers would foul the underside of the engine. So I will thoroughly flatten what remains of the finish on the silencers and pop on some silver BBQ paint to make it last a bit longer. Strangely, the headers seem to be holding out without bad rusting but of course are very discoloured.
We will see how it goes. I suppose 110 quid every 4-5 years is not bad, and it may even last a good bit longer.
Motad not available. Pattern silencers could be obtained and fitted but who is to say how long they would last? Cheapest seem to be about 35 quid each, higher quality ones double that but still no guarantee of good chrome. If the original was available, I would have considered purchase when I was doing the resto but I bit the bullet and went for the el cheapo.
So whatever bike I end up with in the future, I will be tempted to go for original even given the cost. Depends on how long one keeps a bike I suppose.
My bad.
____________________
82 not out....1983 Honda LA250 Custom
2008 Saab 9-3 1.9 Tid 150 Vector Sport estate
2005 Stirling Eccles Topaz 2-berth
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

331X2
Crazy Courier



Joined: 10 Jul 2013
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:46 - 13 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't do it, 180 degree twins sound shit with loud exhausts. I know this because I ride one...
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Wafer_Thin_Ham
Super Spammer



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:38 - 14 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll fall to bits quick smart.

Black Widow, SP Engineering or Delkevic if you want UK based cheap tat. Will probably last a little better.
____________________
My Flickr
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

wots
World Chat Champion



Joined: 30 Aug 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:54 - 14 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delkevic is cheap for this bike, about £130, removes the cat and silencer.

BUT, it sounds seriously shit and seriously loud, ear plugs were never enough, don't forget it is right underneath you. My bike was always one of the loudest on rides, but not in a good way. It was awful.

For the love of god, just don't.
____________________
Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

SkyBadger
Two Stroke Sniffer



Joined: 21 Sep 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:14 - 14 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can probably find videos on youtube which will give you an idea what these exhausts sound like fitted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPjj8RiPLy4

If you are after a budget exhaust I would recommend the SP engineering ones.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

definitelyinc...
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 09 Nov 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:29 - 15 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
It'll fall to bits quick smart.

Black Widow, SP Engineering or Delkevic if you want UK based cheap tat. Will probably last a little better.


Cheers mate, Black Widow don't seem to be doing any full systems for my gen, SP Engineering same (but I would be considering them if I go down the header route), Delkevic seem to have exhaust systems for £250 which is apparently not road legal, and around £300 for a road legal one, if I get the one for £250 then I' m more or less just £50 off the Chinese system (Exhaust + Massive delivery fee).

@Paddy. - What's the need to call them? Am I likely to find an even cheaper solution you think?

@wots Which one is £130? If you mean the slipon then I'd also be getting headers, at which point I'm spending same as a full system, that is if that's what you meant though... I really need a loud system tbh, I'm noticing a big difference from when I ride with friends who have mostly invested in aftermarket systems. Aside from that I don't think the Delkevic sounds bad from the video? Sounds rather throaty, am I missing something?

@skybadger Sounds really throaty for me, I like it! I was going to look for the chinese ones, but if I can grab a UK based manufacturers sytem for £250/£300 (depending on whether it's worth investing in £50 for road legal stuff) then the Chinese ones aren't really worth looking at I guess!

I mainly saw systems for around £500+ and thought that's what I'd have to fork out, thank you guys. Smile
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

ThatDippyTwat
World Chat Champion



Joined: 07 Aug 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:35 - 15 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Chinese "pit bike" can is decent. My UK sourced downpipe has already got surprising amounts of corrosion. It's the fastest I've ever seen this much orange fur appear.

I think it's pure luck, or just knowing the quality of parts (Importer, specialist Chinese distributor etc). If you plan on keeping the bike, get a decent stainless system and forget about it.
____________________
'98 VFR800 (touring) - '12 VFR800 Crosrunner (Commuting) - '01 KDX220 (Big Green Antisocial Machine)
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Alpineandy
World Chat Champion



Joined: 18 Mar 2015
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:36 - 15 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can fit a 'slip-on' on pretty much any bike.
Just need to get one with the right bore.
Any mildly competent mechanic can sort it quickly.
____________________
The above comment isn't necessarily the truth and anyone that says it is, is only correct if it's the truth or they're bigger than me.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Azoth
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 07 Jul 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:14 - 15 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try it and see if it works. I suspect we're getting screwed on oil, voodoo-science aftermarket handlebars and aftermarket exhaust systems. Would be interested to read your experiences of a Chinese pipe.
____________________
Safety in numbers
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

definitelyinc...
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 09 Nov 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:42 - 15 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tawny wrote:
Try it and see if it works. I suspect we're getting screwed on oil, voodoo-science aftermarket handlebars and aftermarket exhaust systems. Would be interested to read your experiences of a Chinese pipe.


In many cases we are, I know someone who built their own YZF-R125 from the frame up, and what I can tell you is that most of his parts are from Ebay etc. resourced from China, his bike is spot on, including all the Chinese parts, it is still a matter of you get what you pay for, however the price to pay for a decent part is lowered considerably. (Not in all cases of course)

Also I would be half tempted to go and try it, but with Delkevic being only £100 more for a full system I might just end up grabbing that part instead
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

definitelyinc...
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 09 Nov 2016
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:45 - 15 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatDippyTwat wrote:
My Chinese "pit bike" can is decent. My UK sourced downpipe has already got surprising amounts of corrosion. It's the fastest I've ever seen this much orange fur appear.

I think it's pure luck, or just knowing the quality of parts (Importer, specialist Chinese distributor etc). If you plan on keeping the bike, get a decent stainless system and forget about it.


Yeah, as the time comes nearer I will spend more and more time just looking at reviews and experiences for my chosen exhaust (most likely Delkevic).

@Andy Yeah, I could most likely cut the end off and weld/add another one (with a friends assistance and tools Razz), however I think i'll just go for a full system, get fresh headers too while I'm at it and whatnot Smile
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

wots
World Chat Champion



Joined: 30 Aug 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:05 - 15 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The headers are just replacements all nice and shiny, I wouldn't bother. Especially, as they can be a twat to get off as the bolts corrode at the manifold.

It is a slip-on, but it isn't. As it comes with the link pipe, all the hangers and everything to fit it. As from the header pipe at the bottom on it is one (heavy) piece.

I've got this kit in my garage, which I've used for about a couple of hours, because I hated it.

https://www.delkevic.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=2154_2433_2434&product_id=7649&Title=DS70+225mm+Oval+Carbon+Fibre+Silencer+to+fit+ER-6F+ER+6F+%282006-2008%29&SKU=KIT0399
____________________
Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Conzar
World Chat Champion



Joined: 11 Jun 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:13 - 16 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

A stubby can on A ER6 is going to sound fucking wank and you will look like a right n00b
____________________
Current ride: ZX6R 636 ------- Previous:KTM EXC 450 Supermoto --- ZX6R B1H --Hornet 600--CBR 600--SV650
11:05:35 Rob Fzs: i just wanna own an rd350 valve before they send us to war with durkadurkastan
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 7 years, 100 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.09 Sec - Server Load: 1.22 - MySQL Queries: 17 - Page Size: 137.17 Kb