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definitelyinc... Trackday Trickster
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Posted: 15:17 - 13 Jan 2017 Post subject: Exhausts from China/Ali-Express type |
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Hello everyone,
Has anyone got experiences purchasing exhausts from Ali-Express and other places, where the exhausts come from China, I'm looking at them, full systems, for (what look to be) my bike (2013 ER6N).
I'm tempted of spending £150/200 on one of these rather than £400/500+ on the branded exhausts, as it will take a while for me to save up, considering I've also got other modifications planned, and this is by no means the most urgent purchase.
Has anyone purchased any of these unbranded exhausts for their bikes, experiences?
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ER6N-ER6F-NINJA650-Motorcycle-Exhaust-Muffler-for-Kawasaki-ER6N-ER6F-NINJA650-2012-2016/32788764419.html?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/GT-Motor-Full-Exhaust-System-and-Carbon-Fiber-Muffler-for-Kawasaki-ER6N-ER6F-Ninja650R-2012-2016/32687766769.html?
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(Slip ons are not an option as my exhaust is a one-piece, unless I invest in older headers, I have to invest in a full system)
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Posted: 15:29 - 13 Jan 2017 Post subject: |
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Superb, another 'what tat can I stick on my commuter shed' thread from raptor1223455xxxL4lyf
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Posted: 16:41 - 13 Jan 2017 Post subject: |
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tom_e wrote: | No need to weld anything, slip ons can be clamped onto the existing pipe.
I've got a cheap Chinese slip on from Aliexpress as I wanted to try a stubby one, it's now in my shed as a backup. It weighs an absolute ton and the quality is a bit rough if you get up close.
I wouldn't want to try they're full systems I imagine they'll rust through pretty quickly, fit won't be great and they'll probably add weight rather than take it away. |
Lots of forums saying I'd need to weld it on, can't confirm though.
ER6N has a fat exhaust, 7.9KG, apparently the one on there is 5kg and another is 3.5kg, according to ALI-Express it's refundable if not as described, so then I can just ask for a refund if I weight it and find it to be heavier.
Regarding the rusting there's ways to prevent it and clean it, if it turns out really bad I'm sure I will be able to replace it, once it does go really bad, I'll just have to do my best to prevent it if it's an issue
Also since you did buy one, how was the sound? |
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rapt0r1997 wrote: | according to ALI-Express it's refundable if not as described | it will be as described, you'll get an exhaust. You won't be able to return it in 6 months if it starts to rot. You can't keep the inside clean and oiled, that's where it'll start.
Why don't you get a used, branded end can. Chop yours and get the correct size gasket. You can use all sorts of gauze, putties and sealants, but if the sizing and gaskets are appropriate you should get a good seal. Not much point (IMHO) shelling out for a low quality full system, if you only want a louder can. ____________________ Current: 2009 SV650 S, 1990 Kawasaki GT550
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Baffler186 wrote: | rapt0r1997 wrote: | according to ALI-Express it's refundable if not as described | it will be as described, you'll get an exhaust. You won't be able to return it in 6 months if it starts to rot. You can't keep the inside clean and oiled, that's where it'll start.
Why don't you get a used, branded end can. Chop yours and get the correct size gasket. You can use all sorts of gauze, putties and sealants, but if the sizing and gaskets are appropriate you should get a good seal. Not much point (IMHO) shelling out for a low quality full system, if you only want a louder can. |
The item is as described, yes, an exhaust, but the description claims 5KG, if it turns out more then it's not as described surely?
Anyway, other points noted, might just fork out on a used end can for previous gen provided I find a cheap enough can for previous gen, current gen has none at all as it's seen as a full system only bike, and to get something going it's either chop or previous system headers and can.
Going to research soon, at work right now so I shouldn't be doing this :s |
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From experience, the following:-
During the (budget) restoration of my little 250 Custom Honda, I purchased a full system from The Motor Lodge. Cost 110GBP. It is rusting badly, and the appearance leads me to believe that there was just a quick layer of chrome plate applied straight to the bare metal with no other treatment first.
For the cost, I suppose the system is good performance-wise. However, as I do not see what I could possibly have done to avoid the rusting. I am regarding the system as a 'consumable' item. The original is no longer available new, (the bike is virtually a CM125C but for bore and stroke) and even if the CM125C system was available OEM new, no good as with the engine being a shorter bore, the second radii of the headers would foul the underside of the engine. So I will thoroughly flatten what remains of the finish on the silencers and pop on some silver BBQ paint to make it last a bit longer. Strangely, the headers seem to be holding out without bad rusting but of course are very discoloured.
We will see how it goes. I suppose 110 quid every 4-5 years is not bad, and it may even last a good bit longer.
Motad not available. Pattern silencers could be obtained and fitted but who is to say how long they would last? Cheapest seem to be about 35 quid each, higher quality ones double that but still no guarantee of good chrome. If the original was available, I would have considered purchase when I was doing the resto but I bit the bullet and went for the el cheapo.
So whatever bike I end up with in the future, I will be tempted to go for original even given the cost. Depends on how long one keeps a bike I suppose.
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It'll fall to bits quick smart.
Black Widow, SP Engineering or Delkevic if you want UK based cheap tat. Will probably last a little better. ____________________ My Flickr |
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Delkevic is cheap for this bike, about £130, removes the cat and silencer.
BUT, it sounds seriously shit and seriously loud, ear plugs were never enough, don't forget it is right underneath you. My bike was always one of the loudest on rides, but not in a good way. It was awful.
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you can probably find videos on youtube which will give you an idea what these exhausts sound like fitted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPjj8RiPLy4
If you are after a budget exhaust I would recommend the SP engineering ones. |
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Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote: | It'll fall to bits quick smart.
Black Widow, SP Engineering or Delkevic if you want UK based cheap tat. Will probably last a little better. |
Cheers mate, Black Widow don't seem to be doing any full systems for my gen, SP Engineering same (but I would be considering them if I go down the header route), Delkevic seem to have exhaust systems for £250 which is apparently not road legal, and around £300 for a road legal one, if I get the one for £250 then I' m more or less just £50 off the Chinese system (Exhaust + Massive delivery fee).
@Paddy. - What's the need to call them? Am I likely to find an even cheaper solution you think?
@wots Which one is £130? If you mean the slipon then I'd also be getting headers, at which point I'm spending same as a full system, that is if that's what you meant though... I really need a loud system tbh, I'm noticing a big difference from when I ride with friends who have mostly invested in aftermarket systems. Aside from that I don't think the Delkevic sounds bad from the video? Sounds rather throaty, am I missing something?
@skybadger Sounds really throaty for me, I like it! I was going to look for the chinese ones, but if I can grab a UK based manufacturers sytem for £250/£300 (depending on whether it's worth investing in £50 for road legal stuff) then the Chinese ones aren't really worth looking at I guess!
I mainly saw systems for around £500+ and thought that's what I'd have to fork out, thank you guys. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 100 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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