Cars with no rear lights on...

[goto10]

Most evenings I'll see at least one [fairly new] car on the A13 with no rear lights illuminated - going past them reveals that they have their headlights on (I've also noticed in some cars that the dashboard lights are on too)

What led car manufacturers to think that equipping cars with always-on front only lights was a good idea? Illuminating the dashboard was an even greater dunce move, the fuckwit drivers genuinely have no idea that they don't have their rear lights on.
<minor rant over>
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[RhynoCZ]

It's not the fault of the car manufacturer, the LED lights are for DAY-TIME use only and you may leave them on during the NIGHT-TIME only on reduced power, as those LEDs are very bright. The LEDs should be wired, so when you turn the low-beams ON, the LED should turn OFF or reduce their luminescence.
IF it's a aftermarket job, then well, yeah, I've got nothing.

It's the fuckwit's fault, that he/she breaks the law. (If there is any in the UK).
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[Hawkeye1250FA]

[Rogerborg]

[Evil Hans]

[ScaredyCat]

It's because they have running lights on the front. Stupid people think running lights are headlights. Stupid laws mean manufacturers didn't put running lights on the back too - just in case the driver is a moron.

Ultimately, the driver is a moron and Brussels isn't really the problem at all.
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[grr666]

DRL meatheads. It's not the manufacturers fault the person buying their product can't work it. Last time I
checked, cars came with instructions. Maybe if these planks could put their phones down for a second and RTFM
they may learn that a typical modern car instrument display has a green light that tells you your lights are on or not.

https://www.asktheadi.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/dipped_beams1.jpg

Yet another indication that the driving test is too easy if the people passing it can't comprehend what their
basic instruments are or aren't telling them. When my mrs passed her test, I went out for a drive with her and was
amazed to discover that she had no idea what the rev counter was for. Once I taught her that, she never stalled
again, funny that. It's not that she wouldn't have understood, just that she was never shown by her instructor.
She learned with a reputable school too. Imagine passing the bike test not knowing what the rev counter did...
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[Lord Percy]

When I rented a brand new Ford Focus last week which was so OTT it didn't even use a key for the ignition, I was very likely one of those people driving around with a nicely lit dashboard, front lights on but nothing on at the back.

I passed my driving test 11 years ago and the last car I owned was a ~1999 Ford Escort.

I wouldn't spring too quickly to the 'blame the driver' theories. Imagine jumping on a bike with the throttle and gear controls flipped onto opposite handlebars. Not exactly what you're used to, obviously a recipe for disaster and you'd blame the manufacturer for not sticking to the norm. The same can be said for when a person gets in a new car with pointless fancy-pants light settings.

[Fizzoid]

Imagine cars without rev counters...How did anyone manage?

The problem is, as already mentioned, people have gotten used to the dash lights being on as a sign they have their lights on

Only last week I followed someone out the train station who didn't realise she had no lights on, presumable because the dash was lit up like a Christmas tree
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[grr666]

Yes in the ye olde days cars didn't have rev counters. I know. I passed in ye olde days myself. In a car with no rev
counter. My first 4 cars never had one either. None the less, if a major important instrument like a rev counter
(standard on most cars these days) is there, how can it hurt to teach the students what it does?

Not knowing how to switch your fucking lights on is pretty much akin to reckless driving in my book.

A lot of these modern cars have an AUTO setting for lights anyway. Mine does, and keyless start for that matter. Difference
being when I bought my car, I spent 20 mins reading the manual so I knew how to connect my phone, operate the alarm,
use the keyless features, set the TPMS, switch on the ACC circuit without starting the car etc etc etc as I wasn't familiar with
these features. There's no real excuse to not learn, people just can't be bothered.
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Ste wrote: Avatars are fine, it's signatures that need turning off.

[Fizzoid]

[Rogerborg]

Is the rev counter anywhere near the ammeter?

https://images.mcn.bauercdn.com/upload/990/images/bulletelectrax30-01.jpg

To be a little fair, if the dash is already lit up like a Christmas tree, it's not necessarily obvious to spot the absence of one light.
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[Doovy]

I always leave my car's headlights on, or off. Never halfway (sidelights). For this very reason.

Will test if sidelights only illuminates rear lights though....
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[RhynoCZ]

All the above, OR could it be people just don't give a feck these days?
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[Pete.]

My VW works van is set to light the front running lights in the daytime and yes this lights the dashboard somewhat. I hate it but there's nothing that I can do about it. For this reason I drive with the headlights on whatever the time of day.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[grr666]

[goto10]

My Mazda 6 has always-on lights (not running lights - it turns all of the lights on as soon as you turn on the ignition - although it _does_ illuminate the front & back) , it just leaves the dashboard unlit. So the only real purpose of the light switch is to turn the dashboard lights on or off.

My bikes have always-on lights too - so if my battery is a bit tired from an extended period of no use, I can't leave the lights off to get every spare amp into the starter motor.
Cheers Bruxelles.
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[recman]

How much of a ballaché would it be for the manufacturers to wire up the rears when you turn the key?

[ScaredyCat]

[Andy_Pagin]

[Lord Percy]

[RhynoCZ]

[janner_10]

Stupid public of today! Just look at local Facebook feeds: "Can anyone clean my oven", " I'm getting married tomorrow, looking for hairdresser", "Is the fish and chip shop open?", "I have a 2 square metre garden, who can cut my grass?", " Who can clean the carpets in my living room", "I need a taxi" LAZY, WINDOW-LICKING BASTARDS!

I learnt to drive in an old Nissan Cherry in 1991, habit has taught me to turn the lights on in the dark. It's not that difficult!
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