Euro4, london emissions bollox

[bigdom86]

hi guys

just passed test so in the market for a 600. most likely a cbr600, r6 or a fazer.

havn't really kept up to date with Euro4 and london emissions crap, but what am I looking to avoid if wanting to keep the bike for the next few years as I believe some new emissions regulations come in 2018/19? which would mean if i buy a certain bike say 06 cbr it may not meet this

cheers

[grr666]

It's registration based so buying 08 onwards should see you ok for a time.

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone

Edited. Thanks Ben
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[notbike]

08+ R6.

2010s can be had for like 4-5k in top notch condition.

[bigdom86]

cheers guys, sounds good to me, will go for 08 plate onwards just incase

[Rogerborg]

Yup, as above. At some point, your Munchkin Mayor will start looking at Euro4, but realistically that can't be for many years to come.

The giggle is that a 2006 registered but already Euro3 compliant ER6 will get ULEZ-raped, but my carbed and modified Euro2 but 2008 registered Enfield would not.
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[Doovy]

I bought an 08 FZ1 for £3k about a year and a half ago in preparation for this reason.
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[M.C]

The good thing about picking such an arbitrary date's that a lot of non-compliant/late registered bikes sneak in. DT125's, XR's, the old Hornet.

As above you do have to be careful, just as an example, MT-03 launched in 2006 so the first model year isn't compliant, 2007 they fitted an o2 sensor so the bike's compliant... still buy one registered in the first 6 months of the year and you're screwed

[TheArchitect]

I considered the ULEZ charge before buying my 06 GSXR recently but then realised it's 3 years away and frankly I very likely would have changed bike at least 2 more times by then. I get bored quick and as I commute a different bike every so often keeps things interesting. So, not fussed until the time and then will pick up an 08 for cheaper than now

I'm aware there may be a price hike of post 57 plate bikes as we near 2020 but that's likely to be temporary and mostly priced by dreamer ebay sellers who have a "proper mint bike ennet" to sell.
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[Alpineandy]

bigdom86,

[Rogerborg]

It's not so much the price hike as the potential tanking of the market for pre-2008 bikes in the Sahrf East.

Maybe not as big an issue for GSXR and the like though.
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[TheArchitect]

[grr666]

That is of course supposing all the other major cities don't follow suit.
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[ScaredyCat]

Which other cities have a 'congestion charge'?

London, Bristol?

Didn't Manchester have a poll or something and most of it said no thanks?
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[goto10]

[Alpineandy]

[Rogerborg]

[grr666]

[M.C]

[goto10]

[TheArchitect]

Although I work in the currently proposed ULEZ, I park literally on the border just outside and live north.

Technically I can get to and from work without going into the zone. Problem occurs for me and for many others I would guess is that often, in order to avoid gridlock traffic (currently due to the congestion zone) I detour through the zone, although a longer distance can sometimes be quicker.

So my prediction is that with the ULEZ in place the outer roads skirting the zone will be at standstill during rush hour, this will lead to complaints from businesses and residents surrounding the zone which will mean more ammunition for Mr Mayor to extend the zone for "the greater good of Londoners".
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[Rogerborg]

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/environment/air-quality-consultation-phase-2/?cid=airquality-consultation

"the Mayor and many Londoners are interested in introducing ULEZ sooner than 2020 and for it to cover a larger area.

[Mayor Munchin proposes]
Extending the ULEZ from Central London up to the North and South Circular roads for all vehicles[3] as early as 2019, but possibly later."

Hold the phone though...

"L-Category vehicles (excluding motorcycles, mopeds and scooters)

The Euro standards for L-Category vehicles (motorised three-wheeled vehicles and quadricycles) are less advanced than for other categories. Euro 4 is the latest standard for them, only introduced from 2017. In recognition of this, the minimum ES standard will be set as Euro 3 for L-category vehicles that currently pay the Congestion Charge. This is in line with the agreed standards for the ULEZ.

Two wheeled motorcycles, mopeds and scooters are currently exempt from the Congestion Charge. It is proposed they will also be exempt from the ES."

Er, so are we raging over nothing?
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