Ideal HDD temp? - UPDATE: All done, new HDD is operational.

[RhynoCZ]

Not to bother you with details:
New PC case - HDD at 42°C (when in use) - used to be 37°C in my old PC case.

Should I be worried or trying to get more fresh/cold air over the HDD? The internet gives some very contradictory ideas about what the ideal temperature of a HDD should be.

*SSD (C:\ = being powered on 100% of the time) mounted above it, runs at about 32°C.
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[Irn-Bru]

Mine is currently 37c, and has 30,001 hours of powered on time according to Crystal Disk Info Seems to be happy, and that's with a 120mm fan on the low setting blowing onto it and my SSD (which I can't get the temp for). I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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[RhynoCZ]

Google SSD-Z (yes, I was as surprised as you might be now. They do make SSD-Z, just like the CPU-Z and GPU-Z).

My previous case also had a 120mm fan blowing air through the HDD cage, keeping all the HDDs at 37°C.

EDIT: Checking the app now, the SSD went to 28°C and the HDD is inactive, at 29°C.

My current case, well, see this picture:
https://content.hwigroup.net/images/products_xl/370492/7/fractal-design-define-mini-c.jpg
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[temeluchus]

Turn your heating down.
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[CaNsA]

I'm struggling to understand the point of this thread.

[techathy]

If you want to know what it should be find the data sheet for your specific drive. This is for a 15krpm SAS drive but should give you a guide - <30C is too cold, >45C is too hot.
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[The Artist]

Why are you worrying about a 5c change in temperature? I am sure HDD's operate in places where the ambient temperature is more than 42c.

[techathy]

[owl]

[RhynoCZ]

[CaNsA]

[owl]

rtfm, what does the manufacturer say the operating temp range is?
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[RhynoCZ]

I see, so what's the purpose of this section, if not for asking computer/technology related question? As I have pointed out, the internet gives out a lot of contradictory info.
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[CaNsA]

[Northern Monkey]

Since you don't believe Cansa. Go read the manufacturer data. See what the people who designed it calculated was the correct range, rather than asking on a motorbike forum. Or even better, just delete all the temperature monitoring programs and just use your pc as a pc.
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[RhynoCZ]

I tried before I even started this thread. The HDD is 6+ years old, hence can't find anything specific from the manufacturer. The products they sell now should be between 5°C and 55°C or 0°C and 60°C.

Anyway, I'm gonna mark the thread as SOLVED and buy a new HDD when the one I have explodes.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-temperature-does-it-matter/

[Irn-Bru]

Just do regular backups if you keep anything important on it, if it dies it dies My 640GB Western Digital drive is over 8 years old now, still going strong, not used as a primary anymore though, SSD is a must for me now

Had a few drives fail on me in the past, 2 OCZ 60GB SSD's just when SSD's first came out so shame on me for being a test subject, and a 40GB Maxtor (do they still exist?) which failed after 2 years, started making alsorts of dodgy noises and died a painful death.
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[CaNsA]

What model harddrive?

Also, there's not much air flow across the drives on a define mini c, if using the section where the PSU sits.

[RhynoCZ]

WDC WD6401AALS-00L3B2
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[CaNsA]

https://www.hardware-mag.de/artikel/520/2879-701276.pdf

[RhynoCZ]

So, I had a look around the case and I think I'll be able to fit a fan there OR mount the HDD elsewhere. It'd be a waste to run it at higher temp and shorten its lifespan. Right now the ambient temperature in my room is about 20°C, which is a value I won't be able to maintain during the summer time.
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[WD Forte]

Sounds like you need a punkha wallah like these chaps

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aaQdQeNhtho/T_oGMpU7BII/AAAAAAAAEew/WByMflNUg_A/s1600/punka_wallah.jpg
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[temeluchus]

I had a quick peek at the specs of a typical desktop drive, in this case a WD Blue series drive.

Specified operating temperature is between 0 and 60 degrees Centigrade. Thus implying that operation at 42 degrees is within spec and thus only a worry to profound autists.

https://www.wdc.com/content/dam/wdc/website/downloadable_assets/eng/spec_data_sheet/2879-771436.pdf

**EDIT because rhyno is autist**

Found specs for an old ATA100 drive. Still lists 0-60 degrees.

https://products.wdc.com/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2879-701277.pdf
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[RhynoCZ]

So Lads, seems like the extra heat didn't do well for the old HDD and it's now dead or soon to be. It's randomly crashing and refusing to read/write or even access the drive.

It was so young, only 4 years being powered on, most of the time at nice 37°C, the past few weeks of 42°C killed it. Well, maybe not, but the higher temp. sure did not help.

Now for some questions, I guess. What's cool these days?
I see the actual capacity of the drive doesn't really determine the price anymore. So a Blue WD 2TB, 5400 rpm., 64MB cache it is. Although it's slower by 3 Mbps at read/write than the Blue 1TB, 7200 rpm., 64MB cache version. Any suggestions? I just need a storage.

Do I get it right that less revs = less noise, less heat, lower power consumption?
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[Ste]

5400rpm = poverty spec.