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PostPosted: 12:43 - 22 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this mean my 66 plate gets an extra year or is it only new registrations.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 22 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really understand the 3 year thing. do brakes/tyres etc nit wear out for 3+ years?

my car turns 1 year old at the end if this month. it'll have done 50k miles (all done by myself). it's due it's 3rd service and probably a set of brake pads. it's already had tyres. if these were not done then it wouldn't pass the road worthiness test within its first year.

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PostPosted: 13:31 - 22 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

From 2018 apparently (if it happens). I actually agree with Groove, I can imagine there are some shocking vehicles at 3 years old. Luckily I can't afford anything that new Smile
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 22 Jan 2017    Post subject: Re: 4 Years Before First MOT For Cars & Bikes Reply with quote

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Makes sense as the quality of manafacturing of vehicles today is far superior compared to 1967 when the 3 year law was introduced.

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PostPosted: 20:13 - 22 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

They've already rejected this once. I wonder what's changed?
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 22 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

This change will only lead to an increase in nonroadworthy cars/bikes being used on the roads imo, especially as there are so few police around to stop cars for random roadside checks. Personally, I don't think a 2 year old vehicle should be treated any different to a 12 year old vehicle.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 22 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

bloody stupid idea,

Some vehicles of this age have covered enough millage to be needing attention to brakes, tyres etc at the minimum,

I've seen a fair few fairly new cars with headlights out and bald tyres etc with a year to go on the MOT…

I know they'd legally be liable in an incident, but better for the incident to not happen.

not enough plod on the road to spot it...
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PostPosted: 08:16 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
They've already rejected this once. I wonder what's changed?


Possibly an attempt to increase new car sales once the £140 VED comes in across the board from April?
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

You, UK-ers, don't like change, do you? Smile

3 years or 4, it doesn't quite matter. If you take the average driver, doing the average maintenence (even under warranty), then 4 years on a brand new vehicle and then every 2 years don't seem so crazy, at all. By the way, vehicles registered as ''historical'' have the MOT every single year, combined with the authenticity check, here. Now for where it could get even worse than it is, there are countries in Europe that do the ''authenticity check'' on every single vehicle, not just the ''historical'' vehicles. Meaning, no modifications allowed. Putting a open exhaust, different brakes, handlebars, levers, windscreen... on your motorcycle would be a no no.
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trust me, I see the state of the "average uk" drivers car on a daily basis. It's eye opening at times.
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely a step in the right direction. A scrap of paper saying your vehicle was roadworthy for 15 minutes one day last year according to Dave, who checked your tread and didn't notice your bike's defects because you were alert enough to spruce it up before ambling along, is meaningless. I look forward to the day when the MOT test is scrapped. If people can't be trusted to keep their vehicles in order then why trust them to drive safely on the road? The insurance industry sorts out unsafe drivers and it can probably sort out maintenance-neglecting owners too.
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
You, UK-ers, don't like change, do you? Smile

51.9% of us do.
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
51.9% of us do.


Well, more like 30%, as many of those proclaimed 51.9% cried about their vote the very next day. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was 1975, with the cars today, fine.

But the total lack of any attempt at home maintenance is worrying, the MOT provides a once annual check of the tyres and bulbs because the average new car owner never looks at the bloody things.

Thats two folk this winter I've gone and spoken to in carparks because they were parked with lock on and had less tread than Lewis Hamilton.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
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51.9% of us do.

Well, more like 30%, as many of those proclaimed 51.9% cried about their vote the very next day. Laughing

Dream on, chap.

On topic, the MOT is both insufficient and over-burdensome.

I genuinely missed that the inner shoulders of Mrs Borg's mummy bus tyres were balder than Patrick Stewart's bonce due to the tracking being properly mullered. Ate right through them in 5,000 miles. Shocked

On the other hand, my Zafira has a check engine light showing because of an erratic failure to read the coolant temperature. Whenever I plug in a diagnostic dongle, it's reading just fine. So at its last MOT I had to sit within bluetooth range, mashing "clear fault" so that it didn't get a bullshit fail. It was otherwise perfect.

I'd be happy with a 6 month check from new if it was a 10 minute check of brakes, tyres and suspension rather than an ever increasing raft of eco- and electro-bollocks.

That actually is what my friendly bike MOT man does, and half of that time is him typing the details into Friend Computer.
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

On the other hand, my Zafira has a check engine light showing because of an erratic failure to read the coolant temperature. Whenever I plug in a diagnostic dongle, it's reading just fine. So at its last MOT I had to sit within bluetooth range, mashing "clear fault" so that it didn't get a bullshit fail. It was otherwise perfect.



Not a fail
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ I pretty much agree with Borgs las post. It isn't necessarily emissions checks that need checking, but things like bald tyres are missed. If Borg can miss things, what chance does 19 yr old Shoniqua Andwhat have 3 years and 30,000 miles down the line?
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeywrencher wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

On the other hand, my Zafira has a check engine light showing because of an erratic failure to read the coolant temperature. Whenever I plug in a diagnostic dongle, it's reading just fine. So at its last MOT I had to sit within bluetooth range, mashing "clear fault" so that it didn't get a bullshit fail. It was otherwise perfect.

Not a fail

Huh, neither it is. Thanks for that. I'd convinced myself that we'd gone full 27b/6 recently. Well, no bullshit advisory then. Whistle
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeywrencher wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

On the other hand, my Zafira has a check engine light showing because of an erratic failure to read the coolant temperature. Whenever I plug in a diagnostic dongle, it's reading just fine. So at its last MOT I had to sit within bluetooth range, mashing "clear fault" so that it didn't get a bullshit fail. It was otherwise perfect.



Not a fail


Correct. I believe it's only if the check light fails to illuminate on initial start up which is a fail?

(Because crushed bulb?)
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bozzy wrote:
Monkeywrencher wrote:

Not a fail


Correct. I believe it's only if the check light fails to illuminate on initial start up which is a fail?

(Because crushed bulb?)


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PostPosted: 12:55 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, just checked online. I stand corrected!
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh FFS, I thought this was already law.

means my Beta XT will only get 3 years.

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PostPosted: 19:57 - 23 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I'd be happier, as if I brought a new car or bike it would mean I could run a de-cat pipe for 4years and a power friendly rich fuel map for more power and torques! Smile

I don't do enough miles to pollute the planet in a significant way, so I want my share of petrol for leisure only use to burn as big a strong flame as possible and pump out a few hydrocarbons in the name of having fun on what's left of the road network.
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