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Littlered L Plate Warrior
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Posted: 06:56 - 24 Jan 2017 Post subject: First Bike for a Shortie |
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I am looking to purchase my first bike (Woo!) but would like others opinions on what they would recommend. I have looked at
Honda CBR 125 after 2011
Aprilia RS4 125
Grom (my father's idea who rides a Fire Storm and a Grom)
I am looking for a bike for a shortie (I am only 4'11) but I would like either a naked or a sport. I have also considered a cafe racer
I would love for your helpful opinions!
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Rogerborg nimbA
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Posted: 10:07 - 24 Jan 2017 Post subject: |
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Hello, welcome to BCF.
First, good call on not settling for a cruiser.
Second, height isn't as important as inside leg. Are you a stork or an otter?
Third, are you UK based or a Furriner? And intending to get licensed up, or just to tool around on a 125 for a while?
If you're UK based, your initial problem is to complete a CBT course - you'll need to be able to get on with the training school bikes. They tend to be YBR / CBF style commuters with fairly narrow seats in the 775-795mm range. Bear in mind that an MSX/Grom is 765mm - it's not a million miles away (it's 10mm, actually). If you can ride a commuter 125 on the CBT, you can ride one anywhere.
Apologies for the Too-Tef-Didn't-Read. The answer you're looking for is:
Pre-2011 CBR125 - the seat is 20mm lower, and it's narrow too.
Grom/MSX, not necessarily just because it's short, but because so many riders love them. I quite fancy one. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Littlered L Plate Warrior
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Rogerborg wrote: | Hello, welcome to BCF.
First, good call on not settling for a cruiser.
Second, height isn't as important as inside leg. Are you a stork or an otter?
Third, are you UK based or a Furriner? And intending to get licensed up, or just to tool around on a 125 for a while?
If you're UK based, your initial problem is to complete a CBT course - you'll need to be able to get on with the training school bikes. They tend to be YBR / CBF style commuters with fairly narrow seats in the 775-795mm range. Bear in mind that an MSX/Grom is 765mm - it's not a million miles away (it's 10mm, actually). If you can ride a commuter 125 on the CBT, you can ride one anywhere.
Apologies for the Too-Tef-Didn't-Read. The answer you're looking for is:
Pre-2011 CBR125 - the seat is 20mm lower, and it's narrow too.
Grom/MSX, not necessarily just because it's short, but because so many riders love them. I quite fancy one. |
I am defiantly an Otter, with my short legs and too light to deal with a cruiser.
This will be my first ever bike and my first bike licence (a true baby to the world)
I'm not based in the Uk but in Australia, sadly they have put out a new rule for all L riders to complete a year on their learner licence before being able to go for their test. It's crazy! Anyway.
I do really enjoy what a CBR125 has and the looks also, just wouldn't want to be the cute small girl on the cute small bike with a Grom
I would have to consider if other bikes can be lowered so I am not stuck on a 125 for the rest of life. |
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Ah, good, you can just get a LAMS bike and ride it?
Except, uh...
The Man wrote: | As an RE provisional or open licence holder, you can learn to ride an R motorcycle if you have held an RE provisional or open licence for at least 2 years.
Note: If you got your RE provisional or open licence before 1 October 2016 you can learn to ride an R motorcycle after you have held your RE provisional or open licence for at least 1 year. |
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Ouch. Did you make it in under the wire?
I know it's not hugely helpful but I'd suggest trying out some bikes if at all possible rather than deciding based on specs or https://www.cycle-ergo.com. It looks like you're not restricted to 125cc bikes, and you might be surprised how easy it is to ride bigger ones.
As to seat height, my "big" BMW is factory lowered and the seat height is somewhere around 765mm, i.e. Grom height. I can easily flat foot both sides with 28" inside legs. Lowering really is an option, feel free to ignore the squawking of the storks who insist that you can and should be able to tippy-toe anything. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
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If you can't trust a bunch of random strangers on the intertubes to not photoshop dic- actually, never mind.
Sure, nothing wrong with 125s, I had great fun on one for a year. And as you've heard, the Grom is one that people actively choose to ride. And at least you won't look like a bear on a circus bike like most riders do on one.
Another candidate might be the Suzuki Van Van 125, or the 200 version if you can find it.
You'll want boots with a thick sole at the toe rather than the heel. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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If you keep quiet, and watch carefully, you are very likely to spot the greater spotted Tef in his natural habitat.
He will typically approach unnoticed, until BAM, the signature wall of text appears. The seasoned Tef-spotter will extend their encounter by replying to dispute the validity of his points, or by calling into question his level of riding experience.
In this case, you can be sure he will lecture you that reaching the floor with your feet is for losers, and in fact putting both feet down at the same time should be a crime punishable by death.
Beware Littlered, over the years many have succumbed to reading his post in their entirety, only discovered as corpses months later, having neglected eating or drinking until they reached the end.
You have been warned. ____________________ 1993 Kawasaki AR50 (In bits) - 1984 Suzuki GP125 (Sold, but still ridden) - 1954 Matchless G3L (Being restored) - 2007 Suzuki Bandit 650 |
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pudder wrote: | If you keep quiet, and watch carefully, you are very likely to spot the greater spotted Tef in his natural habitat.
He will typically approach unnoticed, until BAM, the signature wall of text appears. The seasoned Tef-spotter will extend their encounter by replying to dispute the validity of his points, or by calling into question his level of riding experience.
In this case, you can be sure he will lecture you that reaching the floor with your feet is for losers, and in fact putting both feet down at the same time should be a crime punishable by death.
Beware Littlered, over the years many have succumbed to reading his post in their entirety, only discovered as corpses months later, having neglected eating or drinking until they reached the end.
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Littlered wrote: |
I am defiantly an Otter, with my short legs and too light to deal with a cruiser.
This will be my first ever bike and my first bike licence (a true baby to the world)
I'm not based in the Uk but in Australia, sadly they have put out a new rule for all L riders to complete a year on their learner licence before being able to go for their test. It's crazy! Anyway.
I do really enjoy what a CBR125 has and the looks also, just wouldn't want to be the cute small girl on the cute small bike with a Grom
I would have to consider if other bikes can be lowered so I am not stuck on a 125 for the rest of life. |
You are Kylie and I claim my naked photos ____________________
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