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PostPosted: 00:35 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, that'll work. I'm pretty sure running people over on purpose and stabbing coppers in the back of the head
and neck is already outlawed. Didn't seem to matter here. Only the Musrats really know what goes on in those
mosques, and they will happily taqiyya their way out of any liability.


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PostPosted: 00:49 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think outlawing it would make the problem worse.

The best comparison I can think of is a certain form of Islam in far western China which is outlawed. The members of that faith weren't happy either. Urumqi in particular now has armoured vehicles and machine gun nests around government buildings, and most shopping centres have a huge perimeter fence and bag X-rays are everywhere. Saw it all myself when I was over there. Catching the train out of the place felt like a military procedure.

I think if any Islamic practice were exclusively outlawed in the UK, it would without doubt become the coolest thing to learn among new generations. Things would just get worse.

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PostPosted: 07:49 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Agreed. You cannot distinguish given that lying is mandated by their instruction manual.

Ahmadis, perhaps, because they run real risks by identifying themselves as such.

Temporary incarceration is not a solution. Put a radical inside, a snackbar comes out.

Permanent incarceration is not practical.

They need to be got rid of.

In practice, peacefully.

Just cut off the funding. Convicted of any terrorism related offence? Not a penny from the state, ever, starting with legal aid.

Re-introduce treason, or some variant thereof: "anti community activism" or similar Newspeak.

Convicted of that (by a judge and jury, remember, not a politician) = same punishment: no benefits, no housing, no NHS, no pension, not now, not ever.

You don't like it? Well, we know you don't, that's what you were convicted of. There's the door. Don't let it hit you on your benefits fiddling arse on the way to Germoney or $weden.

The joy of that solution is that it can be applied to the antifa / black something-something rent-a-mobs as well.

You want to smash the state? Fine, we respect your right to your beliefs. But you don't get funded to do so.

We could get rid of millions without a bullet or rope, at no cost beyond a trial, and not lose a single thing worth having.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anyone remember this one from ten years ago:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_teddy_bear_blasphemy_case

Basically English teacher in Sudan held vote on what to call kiddies teddy bear, they chose Mohammed.

News footage showed thousands and thousands of them coming out Splurging for her to be killed.

We’re constantly told Sudan is one of the poorest, enfeebled country in the world but they certainly get some motivation if someone ‘insults’ their religion.

NTDWI though Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Basically English teacher in Sudan held vote on what to call kiddies teddy bear, they chose Mohammed.

NTDWI though Rolling Eyes


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The school was closed until January 2008 for the safety of pupils and staff as reprisals were feared


The really sad thing is, when I lived in India (in a predominantly Christian state)... all my friends were Muslim.

One of which, a really nice guy, has just moved to Hungary to be with his Hungarian partner and kid. Very happy for the pair of them, but suspect they may struggle in future there.

But anyway, I really can't tar everyone with the same brush.

I have a good friend who was raised ultra-conservative Baptist, and the shit her community forced on her is evil. Flat out evil. If I told them that, to their faces, I would no doubt face violent responses.

That sect has next to no relation to my Gran's Catholic version of Christianity, and even less to do with Protestant Christianity.

It's all about sects... innit.

Rather than banning religions, why not just ban anyone who answers yes to the question, "Do you believe your religions "holy-book" is the literal word of god, and should be taken literally"

Poof, creationists and kid raping removed in one stroke.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sun Wukong wrote:
why not just ban anyone who answers yes to the question, "Do you believe your religions "holy-book" is the literal word of god, and should be taken literally"

Because the literal word of allah in the quran orders mahometans to lie about their piety.

Rationality over wizardry: wire them up with electrodes and burn a selection of spellbooks in front on them. If any trigger a response, "ban" them.

Except you can't "ban" natives, can you?
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
I need to chill out. This thread is getting me more wound up than Rainpal. Or that guy on here who had a 'nspcc donation' link on his webpage that went straight to his paypal
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Let me wind that spring a bit more.

Snackbar's hire car will have been insured against 3rd party claims.

I don't see any get-out in the RTA for acts of peacelamism.

How many millions is that going to cost the insurer?

Who is going to end up paying for it?
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Keep getting a server busy error message.
Is this thread being monitored/downloaded/snacked?
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
I don't see any get-out in the RTA for acts of peacelamism.


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PostPosted: 15:52 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Let me wind that spring a bit more.

Snackbar's hire car will have been insured against 3rd party claims.

I don't see any get-out in the RTA for acts of peacelamism.

How many millions is that going to cost the insurer?

Who is going to end up paying for it?


Acts of war and Terrorism are usually specifically excluded from cover. As is damage resulting from ionising radiation.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Acts of war and Terrorism are usually specifically excluded from cover. As is damage resulting from ionising radiation.

For comprehensive claims on your own property. I can't see any such exemption in the RTA for statutory third party cover.

It'd be an interesting one to argue in more marginal cases where the State is frantically handwaving and crying "Mental issues!", but insurers might have a very large interest in having it declared to be snackbar.

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PostPosted: 18:14 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
Acts of war and Terrorism are usually specifically excluded from cover. As is damage resulting from ionising radiation.

For comprehensive claims on your own property. I can't see any such exemption in the RTA for statutory third party cover.

It'd be an interesting one to argue in more marginal cases where the State is frantically handwaving and crying "Mental issues!", but insurers might have a very large interest in having it declared to be snackbar.

One for arry.


It is 'there' generally under Terrorism exclusion:
any loss or damage to property, legal liability, injury ...... caused directly or indirectly......terrorism.

But then it's written back in to an extent:
However this policy covers you so far as is necessary to meet any law on compulsory insurance.

Notwithstanding the crap wording of that second part - because I could drive a bus through that (any law on compulsory insurance, or the law applicable to the territorial limits of the policy or the country in which the loss has occurred? Contra Preferentem) - the RTA doesn't say a lot or even mention terrorism from memory, it's all must be issued by an authorised insurer, must be covering death or bodily injury as a result of use of a motor vehicle - nothing specific at all. However, it would at least sub-limit to the minimum rqeuirement of £1.25m or whateveer it is these days, I guess, should the court decide to interpret it that way.

Certainly not the cleanest cut (excusing the bad taste pun).
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Incisive.
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I don't understand the mentality of people that go on TV saying he was a nice bloke? Confused
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I don't understand the mentality of people that go on TV saying he was a nice bloke? Confused


Because he probably had never done anything like that before and therefore seemed a nice bloke?
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M.C wrote:
I don't understand the mentality of people that go on TV saying he was a nice bloke? Confused


Because he probably had never done anything like that before and therefore seemed a nice bloke?


People who met Hitler said he was a nice bloke. And Stalin. I expect Uncle Kim is a 'nice bloke' until he ties you infront of the barrel of an anti aircraft gun and blows you to smithereens. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 24 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
I don't understand the mentality of people that go on TV saying he was a nice bloke? Confused

Cujo never would have hurt a fly before he ate Gary. Can't understand it, he never bit me.
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 25 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
Jewlio Rides Again wrote:

Because he probably had never done anything like that before and therefore seemed a nice bloke?


People who met Hitler said he was a nice bloke. And Stalin. I expect Uncle Kim is a 'nice bloke' until he ties you infront of the barrel of an anti aircraft gun and blows you to smithereens. Rolling Eyes


And your point is what?
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 25 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bet plenty folk thought this guy was a lovely nice chap too:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/twisted-oap-told-police-nothing-12794605
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Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
M.C wrote:
I don't understand the mentality of people that go on TV saying he was a nice bloke? Confused


Because he probably had never done anything like that before and therefore seemed a nice bloke?

Apart from all his previous offensives. What I meant was if you knew someone who committed a crime like that, why would you go on TV saying they were a decent person? Unless you're someone desperate to be on the telly, like they had someone who knew the copper that died, who hadn't seen him in nearly a decade Rolling Eyes
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Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
And your point is what?


The point being is it's a totally cretinous comment. Like when some local kid starts running with gangs and gets shot, and the local paper or news comments something to the effect of, "He was a really nice kid. He liked football."

They can't say anything nice, so say something banal, quote an idiot who either wears rose coloured spectacles or didn't really know him at all. Anything but tell the truth. You really don't want to do that.
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Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
Bet plenty folk thought this guy was a lovely nice chap too:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/twisted-oap-told-police-nothing-12794605


once again, because other problems exist we shouldn't be making comment on the problems of Islamic ideology.

By this rational we shouldn't have a problem with drink driving because some people are killed by faulty brakes anyway.
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M.C wrote:
I don't understand the mentality of people that go on TV saying he was a nice bloke? Confused

Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
Because he probably had never done anything like that before and therefore seemed a nice bloke?

He seemed nice enough to me.
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