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PostPosted: 10:44 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

Hi All

Just found this, https://www.brixton-motorcycles.com/en/

The bikes themselves, are made by Wonjan ..

The engines appear to be Suzuki based.

The BX125 looks quite nice, whether it's really any better than the AJS Cadwell, or the Mash Black 7 is anybody's guess

Looking at a dealer, the UK price for 1 is £2799.00, yet, on the Brixton site, 2399 Euro's !! Now, I know the £ isn't doing too great since the Brexit referendum, but, really ??
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

I was immediately thinking 'with added hipster' before I even saw the domain name, which pretty much confirmed it.

I thought the thing to do these days was to buy a £200 cg, take a few bits off, maybe polish the tank and advertise it for £1k?
At least you probably won't lose money that way and still have reliable enough bike Smile.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

So another Mutt/Herald/Mash/rebadged Chinese made machine then!
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

In what part of Austria is Brixton?

KSR Group GmbH
Gewerbeparkstrasse 11
3500 Krems an der Donau
Austria

OK, they have put a little more effort in than the usual AJS / Mutt / Herald rebranders. Rear disc, LED headlight and teeny indicators, faux-knobblies (fnobblies?) and that "yes I would like to trap moisture!" exhaust wrap for extra hipster cred.

But at the end of the day, it's a £1500 Lexmoto Valiant plus some "British" (wut?) badge snobbery and a ropey parts supply.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a new definition of British?
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

G wrote:
I was immediately thinking 'with added hipster' before I even saw the domain name, which pretty much confirmed it.


Aye, just the thread title was enough to send beard wax and lumberjack shirt sales up.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monocle polish and jackboots.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

G wrote:
I was immediately thinking 'with added hipster' before I even saw the domain name, which pretty much confirmed it.

I thought the thing to do these days was to buy a £200 cg, take a few bits off, maybe polish the tank and advertise it for £1k?
At least you probably won't lose money that way and still have reliable enough bike Smile.


Gum tree, £2k, no V5
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gum tree again £1k

To be fair there are some crappier ones for normal cg prices, which is consider buying.
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

linuxyeti wrote:
Hi All

Just found this, The BX125


Sorry Mr Linuxyeti , but another Chinese 125 single = meh!

I think it`s about time they looked at doing a twin, maybe something along the lines of the CB 250? whaddya recon?
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was interested for all of a nano second before I realised you were talking shite about another rebranded chinese pos.
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
£2k, no V5 / £1K

The first one is worth twice as much because it's had more parts removed. FACT.


pepperami wrote:
I think it`s about time they looked at doing a twin, maybe something along the lines of the CB 250? whaddya recon?

Chinese marques do-do some 230/250 twins. For all that folk reckon they might have one, the sales figures tend to be in single or double digits. The perfectly decent "Honley" (Zongshen) RX3 has shifted 40 units in 3 years despite glowing reviews and looking like a very credible micro-GS. The Sinnis and "Pulse" (Lemoto) 250 supermotos both barely broke into100 units.

One interesting attempt was the "AJS" SPT 350, a 320cc twin with a 23hp liquid cooled fuel injected engine tuned for torque and fuel efficiency. The eye opening part was the 28 litre (no, not a typo) tank. Ozzies were talking about doing Sydney to Melbourne, over 500 miles, on one fill up.

Essentially a cheaper Inazuma 250, modern technology, triple discs, as good or better on fuel and with a massive tank range for commuting. Should be a winner, right?

AJS sold four of them in the UK.
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Chinese marques do-do some 230/250 twins. .


Doh! I forgot about the Lifan 250 cruiser thingy and the CF-Moto 223cc cruiser thingy and stuff like this
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Motorcycles-Scooters/422/i.html?_from=R40&_sop=7&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=.09&_udhi=2500&_nkw=250&_pgn=2&_skc=50&rt=nc

Not familiar with the AJS 320 thingy.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
I think it`s about time they looked at doing a twin, maybe something along the lines of the CB 250? whaddya recon?

Problem is the Chinese home market eclipses the export market much like the moon eclipses a peanut. In China motorcycles are legally limited to a top speed of 50mph, so anything capable of more than that isn't going to be saleable over there, so not really worth the effort.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:

Problem is the Chinese home market eclipses the export market much like the moon eclipses a peanut. In China motorcycles are legally limited to a top speed of 50mph, so anything capable of more than that isn't going to be saleable over there, so not really worth the effort.


You learn something new every day. No wonder they don't build big cc bikes.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:

You learn something new every day. No wonder they don't build big cc bikes.

There is a god after all.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
In China motorcycles are legally limited to a top speed of 50mph.

[citation needed]
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
In China motorcycles are legally limited to a top speed of 50mph


All motorcycles are restricted to 50? Source?

I know there are restrictions on bikes entering certain cities at certain times, and there was some crazy law about scrapping bikes when they hit 11 years old. Never heard of a speed restriction though.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Andy_Pagin wrote:
In China motorcycles are legally limited to a top speed of 50mph.

[citation needed]

LMJGTFY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_motorcycle_access_on_freeways#List_of_speed_limits

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PostPosted: 14:45 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, but in my book a vehicle having a limited top speed is different to a speed limit on a road.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

Quite that logic means the market for bikes over here is limited to ones that go 70mph?
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

G wrote:
Andy_Pagin wrote:
In China motorcycles are legally limited to a top speed of 50mph.

LMJGTFY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_motorcycle_access_on_freeways#List_of_speed_limits Smile

Do you think there's any chance - any at all - that I hadn't already read that? Neutral

I think we may have to have handbags over the semantics of "legally limited". I wouldn't imagine that CF MOTO 650s chop the ignition at 80kph.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should have been clearer, the motorcycle speed limit is 50mph, it's not as far as I know a mechanical restriction.

Most Chinese are fairly poor, they're not going to fork out Yen on anything more than they need to. So not much of a market for something relatively expensive with no advantage other than the capability to get you a good kicking from the police.
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

Oh; I read that as in "you are limited to 70mph on British motorways by the law".
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 09 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Brixton Motorcycles - New British Brand Reply with quote

natefz6 wrote:
Quite that logic means the market for bikes over here is limited to ones that go 70mph?

I suspect the bulk of the market over here is for bikes that can't even reach 70mph. Even if we outlawed the perpetual learner I can't see the short hop commuters, couriers and pizza boys going for anything bigger. As for us 'big-bikers' we either own them because we're rich (compared to the Chinese) or we have a good pratical reason.
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