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Posted: 18:40 - 10 Feb 2017 Post subject: January 2017 new registration statistics |
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Let's see what they're like after that huge steaming dump of pre-Eurobollocks bikes in December 2016.
https://www.mcia.co.uk/Uploads/Statistics/Press-Statistics-201701.pdf
Survey says... down 15% on last January. Oooh, thanks Brussels, nice one.
OK, a big chunk of that is the 26% drop in 125s, which will be the Euro3 / non-funky braked Chinese fake-aways being registered at the last minute - Lexmoto have dropped to an unusual 10th place, leaving Harley Davidson to bag 5th (really).
Interestingly, Honda registered 109 CB125Fs, which they must have either done under the 20% grandfather clause, or because DVLA has plum forgotten that Computer Says No.
Huh, they also scooped the 126-650 category with 43 CBR600RRs, another discontinued-due-to-bollocks bike. I smell shenanigans. Well done, if so. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Posted: 11:10 - 11 Feb 2017 Post subject: |
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Mmm, I see they only appear to have two Bollocksbikes available, at ~£2100 and ~£2350 OTR apiece, with the difference being £250 worth of E-Z-snap plastics - I'd rather have the cheaper one with the crash bungs.
Once there's a a 2 at the start of the price, you do really need to ask yourself why you'd go with the off-brand Chinese bike rather than a Jap branded one. Even if the bikes are as good, you'll get slaughtered in resale.
Let's see how this pans out for Lexmoto, but if they don't manage to find something closer to the magic £1000 level then I can't see them maintaining their sales numbers. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Rogerborg wrote: | Let's see how this pans out for Lexmoto, but if they don't manage to find something closer to the magic £1000 level then I can't see them maintaining their sales numbers. |
I can't see them selling bikes at £1000 any time soon because in the increase, and there's been a few of them, of the old Euro 3 registered stock makes me think they're increasing profit now to cover shortfall in the long run until they figure out what to do. Although that being said, like you say, there's only two Euro 4 bikes at present so they haven't added their entire range and could still be bikes at lower prices. Can only work for so long mind given there's a limited number they managed to import and register before deadline (whenever that is/was).
My entire thinking is that there's no reason to go new anymore and buying an old Jap 125 would be alot cheaper and achieve the same goal. Seems like Euro 4 and enforcing the rules on tiddlers could probably kill lexmoto given it's the counter opposite to their entire existence thus far.
I say it's a dead end investment before even putting a penny down because, as you say, resale will be poor. Can see a lot floating around at silly prices not shifting.
Rather stick with old used Euro 3 bikes because they're still rideable, makes no sense to fork out extra monies because new rules. ____________________ The do it all, T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶ ̶l̶u̶m̶p̶,̶ ̶C̶h̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶N̶o̶o̶d̶l̶e̶ |
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stevo as b4 wrote: | A new Chinq that only has to last a rider 2years probably has a better chance of being reliable and safe than a 10year old Japanese bike that's had at least half that many owners. |
Mine was absolutely fine for 3 years, although it was looked after.
The salient point is that it cost me £886 in inflation adjusted 2017 dollah, including delivery, registration and VED. That is 10 year old Japanese money.
But if you're buying today, then (once the pre-reg grandfathered bikes are gone and DVLA finally starts refusing registrations) you're looking at £2100 OTR for a Bollocks-compliant Chinese 125. That puts you within £500 of a new YBR or CB125F, and I guarantee you'll make that back in resale.
It's interesting that neither Honda nor Yamaha have revealed their budget commuter Bollocks Bikes yet. They're still listing the pre-Bollocks models. Actually Honda is still listing the CBF125 - I'm baffled as to why they switched to the CB125F for a year, knowing that it wasn't Bollocks compliant.
It is possible that they're just not going to bother with budget 125s at all? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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If I was a 17yr old virgin I'd be all over that. Alas I am not 17 anymore
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What's that, some Euro4 Skyjet? I like the Speed Vents in the tail, +5mph easy.
So that's them got 4 bikes, of which 2 are essentially identical, and all are over £2K OTR. Best of luck, chaps. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Orange side reflectors are just killing the look of bikes these days |
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Northern Monkey wrote: | Msx is available with all euro4 crap for over 3 grand |
£3300.
Huh, that's interesting. The spec says ABS on the front, but not on the rear. Pictures still don't show an ABS ring on either, so I don't know if that's just an omission in the spec, or if they've being a bit clever by saying "diktat only diktates that ABS is required on the bike, not on both wheels". ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 62 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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