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Posted: 14:58 - 17 Feb 2017 Post subject: |
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see heres the thing that pototoes my mind with oil discussions.
both motorbike shops that i trust in their experience both say that semi is fine for the GSXR 1000 on the road
doble highly recommend fully synthetic for the MSX 125
but then other "online personas" say that fully synthetic is better!
then you see oil like this for £1.99 then im like troll face da faq is this!
I swear that oil discussions are more confusing than trying to understand crazy people logic (e.g. i like going scotland but yet im subtlety accused of having another woman up there.........theres no way i would ride 530 miles for 12hrs just to cheat when i could do that in London) ____________________ Elen sila lummen omentielvo!
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Pigeon wrote: | I used some halfords fully synth in my SV a year ago and again in the last 500 miles (as still had half the bottle left). It was API SN so had low zinc (used to help prevent metal on metal wear) levels compared to SJ/SL (many motorbike oils are still based on older API approved oil, perhaps because more zinc is needed, or maybe there is no money in it for the extra R&D or just not worth spending on new advertising / packaging etc).
It also had high Calcium (used as a detergent).
On both occasions, the oil turned black very quickly and the gearbox never felt as nice, made it feel clunky.
In between the Halfords stuff, I used Total Quartz 9000. Same API SN, but with added Boron (anti-wear agent used to replace missing zinc from newer API spec) and less Calcium. Night/day in terms of feel. Beautifully slick gear changes.
My SV became unwell while on the Halfords stuff, but I'm not really drawing any direct correlation as it sounded fecked from day 1
I'm running the Total Quartz in my Striple too. Again, its a lovely slick gear change... |
This^^ is how I tend to choose my oils.
On my last bike, the shop filled it with Mobil 1 at the first service and the gearchange was still smooth after 5,000 miles.
Then I changed it myself and put in Yamalube: Big mistake – the gearchange was clonk city. After 1,000 miles I could take no more, refilled with Mobil 1, and normal, slick service was resumed.
My current bike is running Motul 5100 and the gearchange is as slick as a slick thing. Provided it stays that way, I'll be sticking with the Motul.
I'm not interested in saving a few quid on oil if it makes the gearchange feel like a bag of spanners.
As ever, YMMV. ____________________ Suzuki Bandit 1250
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I like me some cheap oil, so I went to the Home Bargs in Coalville and found they do two kinds - Standard and Super.
https://i.imgur.com/UhuWTou.jpg
Weirdly they are both the same price, but the Super is SJ/MA-2 while the Standard is SG/MA. I don't care about that, either is good enough for what I own, but I did stay crouched there sloshing the bottles next to my ear while people skirted around me like I'd gone full window licker. As far as I can tell, the Standard is very thin in the bottle (like all cheap oil I've ever bought) while the Super is a little thicker. Naturally I went Super, it'll do for top ups if nothing else.
If they start properly stocking this, or even better selling it in 4/5L bottles then they could sew up the market if it's any good at all.
Also, if you want some SAE50 for reasons that escape me, they have you covered for that as well. ____________________ 1994 CB250, 1984 CBX250RS-E, 1989 K100RS, 1995 TRX850, 2016 Z250SL |
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Posted: 19:30 - 13 Mar 2017 Post subject: |
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Turns out crappy cheap oil is cheap and crappy.
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4428612
Who'd a thunk it? ____________________ stinkwheel: He had an animated .gif of a cat performing fellatio. It's not socially acceptable. It can have real life adverse effects on other people. |
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Aw, man, if you can't trust Russian oil manufactured in complyance with the latest technology, what can you trust?
Oilpal thread. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 43 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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