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I was intrigued by this so figured I'd add some ..
The 600 is a short stroke, high revving machine 65 x 45.2mm (peak power @11500).
The 900 on the other hand is 73 x 56mm and offers bags more torque as a consequence (peak power @10000)
Swapping the top end (if it's even feasible) will not buy you that many more ccs and you're still left with a high revver - assuming you can sort out the carburation that is.
On balance a poor idea IMO. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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https://i.imgur.com/M8696zm.jpg
This is my rf600r it's been my project this year was a garden dump when I borght it, loads of new parts and complete respray and here she is, this is why I don't want to get rid of her ____________________ Current: 1994 Suzuki rf600r
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Daz1245 wrote: | I've got the shiny part alright just not enough power lol |
It's a 100bhp motorcycle... it is MORE than enough... and if you think it aint, you aint using it right....
RF's always been a bit of an odd-ball; it was always critasised for it's lackings, mostly it not being a CBR600, and it's err.. 'odd' styling, and never appreciated for just how good it actually was. Rapidly falling into the bargain basement of the unloved, user abuse and neglect oft gave much more oportunity for even more criticism, that is probably NOT all that fair on the thing... well.. still looks wiered either which way!
However... it DOES have a more than respectable dose of power, and certainly more than enough to be entertaining.... I found the 'old' GSX600F tea-pot, rather underwhelming; it's mere 75bhp on paper wasn't anything to be sniffed at, you just had to thrash the pants off the thing to get at it.. and that sort of showed up all the bikes other weaknesses!!! I suspect the RF is much the same but more so... unfortunately none of them I have ever encountered have worked well enough, if at all to put the theory to the test, most being No1-son's never-finished-projects, but still...
It is NOT a bike, I would even consider messing with, really.. it was never a 'contender' even in its day; there were quicker, more powerful, better handling bikes about, it's forte was trying to remain somewhat more every-day, all-round 'useful'.. and doing it on a budget.... and these days, the faster, more powerful, better handling bikes are often living in the same budget realms, blunting even that advantage...
IF you want to keep this bike, and enjoy it, stop making the mistake all its critics for a decade did, and critasising it for what it isn't and appreciate it for what it is...
Old paddoc adage, "want a faster bike, fit a better rider", goes a long way on this one; IF the bike is tip-top after resto and that's not a pile of pretty painted scrap hiding knackered mechanical.... and possibly even a set of 33bhp restriction washers? (They were cheap enough to get a lot of 33bhp restrict riders exited over them, in that era...)
But, I might be tempted to drop a tooth off the gearbox sprocket, and maybe gain one or two on the wheel cog, to down gear it a bit to make getting at the revs a bit easier in the taller gears.. its a 130mph motorcycle, you can afford to loose a few points off the top end for everyday thrasheability... otherwise, not riding it like a newb, using the lower cogs, not short shifting, there' should be plenty of power there, as it stands.. it just you have to work for it.
If you want more power? Well, how much can you handle or afford? Most bikes that have more, will also come with more mass and bigger bills, like the RF9, or a ZZR11, or other similar era bruisers. Other 600's wont have much more beef, they may have less mass, and likely better handling, but they wont have a lot more oomph.. and you'll still need to appreciate the bikes nature to get at and exploit whatever they have, which brings us back round to top really.. if you want 'more' it probably isn't the best bike to start with, get something that better suits your aspirations, OR appreciate what you got for what it is and can do. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Teflon-Mike wrote: |
It's a 100bhp motorcycle... it is MORE than enough... and if you think it aint, you aint using it right.... |
So, prey do tell, if I want to be lazy and not change gear so much on my RF600, so I want more power... how would I go about 'using it right' to achieve that?
Quote: | If you want more power? Well, how much can you handle or afford? Most bikes that have more, will also come with more mass and bigger bills, like the RF9, or a ZZR11, or other similar era bruisers. Other 600's wont have much more beef, they may have less mass, and likely better handling, but they wont have a lot more oomph.
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Newer 600s will have a noticably more go if your budget stretches - especially if you're talking '600 class' like the 636 and 675.
Hell, a modern superbike that probably has twice the power of the RF is likely smaller and lighter.
But yes, if you make use of more power, it's going to wear stuff quicker, no getting away from that! |
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I really like the looks.
Turbo-nitrous is obviously the answer. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Alright, now for something that might satisfy OP's needs.
Try short final drive gear ratio, preferably with a short/quick action throttle. Both mods are cheap and easy to do.
I experimented with final drive gear ratios on my CB-1 and believe you me, having a short final drive gear ratio makes your motorcycle way more fun. Not necessarily faster, although the CB-1 was faster with the short final drive gear ratio (190kph+ / original ratio about 175kph). The downside of short final drive gear ratio is worse MPG and more revs all the time = more heat and I do believe more engine wear. But it sure turns a boring bike into a fun one.
Reading the specs, your RF 600 should do 235kph, imagine if it did only 220 but got there waaaaaaaaay quicker. That's what getting shorter final drive gear ratio is all about. IF your 6th gear is an overdrive, then it might even make your motorcycle faster than 235kph, if that's what you seek. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 71 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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