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I don't blame them, maybe they've found Chinese bikes to be more trouble than they're worth.
All businesses have to learn when to say “No”. I was formerly self-employed and, in my experience, some jobs just aren't worth taking on. ____________________ Suzuki Bandit 1250
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pepperami wrote: | Polarbear wrote: |
And I'm not surprised. Working on a bike that costs a grand new and then they give the owner a £200 quid bill.
Labour rates don't change because it's a Chinese bike. |
Absolutely correct.
And there lies my disappointment, I was prepared to pay the going rate for my local dealer to assist a regular customer.
Funny how the same dealer will work on a Yamaha YRB or a Honda CBF 125 and one is made in China and the other is made in India.
Having seen the state of a couple of 125 CBF's around here, I know the build quality of my Chinese bike is better than that. |
But it's not actually about build quality, is it?
It's about the availability and supply of service manuals, schematics, part numbers, OEM parts, and (where applicable) data interfaces. The dealer/mechanic needs to know that they can quickly and reliably identify exactly what parts are required, and get hold of virtually any OEM part (or exact equivalent) at short notice. They also need reference information (assembly instructions, wiring diagrams, torque values, service schedules, job times etc). In essence, the manufacturer needs to support their product, and provide franchised and other repair agents with the resources and information that is required for the correct and expedient service and repair of their vehicles.
Unless I'm mistaken, you get all of that with 'established' manufacturers, and very little (if any) of that with Chinese manufacturers.
Add in the fact that, by definition, most owners of cheap bikes don't want to (or aren't able to) spend much, then it's destined to be a high risk, low value market.
It would (IMO) be foolish to inconvenience yourself and boycott a business which has provided a quality service in the past, because of their quite reasonable and rational decision not to service a particular market.
Perhaps the time will come when it's not such an issue, but manufacturers need to do their bit, and build a proper dealer and support network. Of course, the bikes might then cost just as much as the Japanese/European equivalents. |
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A perspective from a trader
I been in the trade over 30years and run a workshop do a little buy and sell but core is servicing and repairs
We do not do the Chinese bikes or other odd makes for three reasons
1 no easy access to part
2 no easy access to data manuals wiring diagrams etc
3 customers who thing it was a cheap buy it will be cheap to repair
And the "You worked on it last it must be you fault it got more problems" the main reason most workshop near me will not help
There was a local place the did tackle them but they charged a lot as they expected to spend as much time sorting part and data as working on the bike ! ____________________ Dave
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 79 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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