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PostPosted: 22:51 - 19 Feb 2017    Post subject: Worth getting something small ? Reply with quote

Since the crash in November last year I've been off the road and itching to get back on. Possibly should be in dear aunty.. but it is regarding a bike.

Now I've been told by the doctor I've got a possible tfcc tear in the wrist waiting on Orthopaedics next month can just about lift 10kg (which is a joke) and about 70% bend on the wrist. Also cartilage damage on the knee it locks up every now and then luckily not in the last week waiting on results should of been here last week.

Now I'm tempted to get a little cheap moped for the time being save getting my k100 on the road. Just so I've got transport however before going into that I was wondering if it would be worth it or would it be best waiting it out to get the all clear from doctors Question

((Now I know I'm going need new gear as my case is still ongoing. FYI k100 needs new bolts drilling on the forks, battery and brake pads. However I fear the weight might be a bit too much at the moment.))
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 19 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends how mental you are I guess. Would I? Totally, but I am massively irresponsible.

Just dont whine too loudly if you dont heal properly...
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 19 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similar to me, I had an accident where I crushed my right hand. Lost all strength & 70% of the movement in my wrist. 3 months after the accident I had 12kg grip in my right hand and 62kg in my left.

3 weeks after I had the accident I was back on the bandit...

Did It hinder the healing process? pass, talking to the physio she said that providing it's not causing an uncomfortable pain and that it doesn't cause pain in the evening (if you have been on a long ride) then it won't have a negative effect.

So my answer is... Get the k100 back on the go again and try it out.
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 19 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the main worries is if I get back on the road with the k100 I might have to go back on the bench straight away. I've been told I can an only lift 10kg for Feb. On the bench means lifting 25-50kg a time.

Also if it means It is a TFCC injury then it might mean surgery which is putting the bike back out of use for a couple of months. Not good if you have just got it back on the road.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 19 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask your Physiotherapist before you risk compromising your recovery.
Also you've got to consider, will you have full control in your current state?
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 19 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogue_Shadow wrote:
Ask your Physiotherapist before you risk compromising your recovery.
Also you've got to consider, will you have full control in your current state?


Ha I've seen physio 3 times since the crash, which have been no use so far. Them 3 occasions were before January as well.
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogue_Shadow wrote:
Also you've got to consider, will you have full control in your current state?
Smiler? 'full control' Laughing
Sorry Smiler, couldn't resist it.
Seriously though, if I were in your position I' d be desperate to get back on and definitely would jump on a twist&go scooter and see how I got on with it. You'll soon discover if it was a good idea. If it ain't, then stop doing it.
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal wrote:
Depends how mental you are I guess.

Who needs to GUESS! This is SMILER we're talking about!
Rogue_Shadow wrote:
Also you've got to consider, will you have full control in your current state?

We have to consider 'relativity' here....
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SMILER... we've had five years of you living on the margins, determined to ride a motorbike, even though.. well.. you couldn't... really.

There is a certain amount of credit to be offered for shear perseverance, BUT.. with ALL the set-backs and dramas you have encountered along the way... do you REALLY not think that the cosmos IS trying to tell you 'something'?

SO.. what are you looking at now? Customised C90's or two-stroke pit bikes?
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PostPosted: 01:36 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you tef that gives me the determination to actually sort out the k100 and get back on it. I was actually trying to think conservatively when I created the thread. Knowing that I had MRI results expected and a visit to the orthopaedics.

Hence why I was looking at something smaller, not a twist and go but say a lightweight 250, something that has a bit of power but not too strenuous on the wrists.
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now I'm tempted to get a little cheap moped


so 50cc scooter really


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Hence why I was looking at something smaller, not a twist and go but say a lightweight 250


so which is it Laughing

just for your info I was riding my 240 kg scooter 4 weeks after my off I had asked the pysio who said if it didn't hurt too much it was fine so ask yours they will know if it is safe or not
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
Thank you tef that gives me the determination to actually sort out the k100 and get back on it.


You have seen me stagger onto the Seven-fifty..... IF you really want to do it... you will... irrespective of what the doctors say, or we do.

But.. that 'will-power' over all, HAS got you into a lot of trouble in the past... trick is to try and learn from the mistakes not make same ones over......

Having defied the quacks myself to get back in the saddle... I cant critasise you for the same ambition.... BUT... last accident thread didn't disued me much you still have a bit of a problem with the red mist over reason, and that tendancy not to not think, but over think, and still do the 'wrong' thing hasn't been kicked...

In your spill report, there was a lot of 'but I wasn't'.. and presumption that not doing the 'wrong' thing must be the same as doing the right thing... but you still got brought down.....

A new bike, wont make any odds to that. How heavy a bike may be wont make any odds to that. How healed your hands wont make any odds to that.

KR1S is about the lightest 250 I know of... with low narrow bars, its also probably the worst I can imagine to put added stress on your wrists. The brick? probably twice the wight, but with high wide bars and sit up and beg riding position and good balence? Probably better than many lightweights or scootah's, i should think...

BUT.. you have become a serial crasher..... and every time you get back up and get back on, the only thing you seem to have learned from it is that you CAN crash a motorbike and live to do it again....

Go re-read your last spill report over, and count how many times you say what you WEREN'T doing.. not what you were..... not doing the wrong stuff, isn't the same as doing the right stuff... THAT is the lesson you need to learn, to break this cycle, not break more motorcycles!

THAT is what you need to sort out... not what bike might be more or less suitable.

Listen to the cosmos! Take the hint and sort the problem. And IF you come back for another crack? Maybe with a new aproach, things will be different. If not, likely they wont. Either way, Yeah.. the brick is probably as good an ambition to get back in the saddle as any.... BUT... 'the' bike or 'what' bike is NOT the real problem here.....
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogue_Shadow wrote:
Ask your Physiotherapist before you risk compromising your recovery.
Also you've got to consider, will you have full control in your current state?

This +1
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
SMILER... we've had five years of you living on the margins, determined to ride a motorbike, even though.. well.. you couldn't... really.


Rated as Insightful because sorry, but it's bang on Thumbs Up

Teflon-Mike wrote:
IF you really want to do it... you will... irrespective of what the doctors say, or we do.


And Tef is spot on with that one too. Regardless of what anybody says you will do what you want. If it were me I would wait and see how the recovery goes, take the bus for the time being. Why risk compromising your long term health and regretting it in the future?
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

All credit to you Mr Smiler for having the determination to want to ride again.
However , I do agree with the lads on this one in that you need to recover first.
Think of it like this , because you are not fully recovered, you may not be fully in control of your bike and therefore more likely to crash again.

Coming off a small bike will hurt just as much as coming off a big bike .
Sliding down the road at ??mph is the same regardless.
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Tef.
Maybe you need to look at what you *are* doing wrong if you keep crashing.

Dammit, that was the first time I've read a Teffers post from start to finish without stopping!

But in the meantime, a twistie isn't so bad, regardless of how much we like to slag them off, one of them should at least keep you mobile and motivated without too much risk of compromising your injury.

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PostPosted: 11:42 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Re: Worth getting something small ? Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
I've got a possible tfcc tear in the wrist

Which wrist?

I might be a bit careful about ignoring the sawbones if you've got an ongoing compo claim.
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^ Listen to him^^^

If you are going through a claim and are seen riding a bike?
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's time for a BMW C1 with orange strobes and an escort vehicle front and rear.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my experience of wrist pain/injury - riding the bike is the easy bit, apart from the clutch. The things that got me were the constant pulling and tugging, getting gear on and off, wheeling bike out the garage etc etc. It's not the actual riding that gets you, it's everything that goes with it. I once managed to re-fuck my wrist simply by buttoning up my son's trousers at the wrong angle.

If you can get your gear on and off easily and don't have to move a scooter up any ramps or hills, then go for it. I would wait for the all clear though.
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:


so which is it Laughing


I was thinking something small before like a twist and go but I've never ridden one and thinking about it last night I don't see any reason putting extra strain on myself with one (being so slow).

Rogerborg wrote:

Which wrist?

I might be a bit careful about ignoring the sawbones if you've got an ongoing compo claim.


Left wrist, the ulnar (bone that sticks out of the wrist normally) jumps and makes a loud clicking noise every time I rotate my hand; it can also be moved just with your fingers. That is what made the doctor think TFCC hence why he is sending me to an Orthopaedic on the 2nd of March. However if it's anything like the knee they will say it's normal. Not sure how a knee that randomly locks and has a stinging pain 90% of the time can be normal since the accident.

Regarding the claim police charged the driver with careless and dangerous driving at the scene. Since he has been sent for the driver alertness course as I didn't want to take it too far for the old prick. I don't think he was aiming to cause me misery it was just a big mistake. Still the idiot is holding out on the fault. Not sure how.

He also went for an extended driving test and failed.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 20 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baffler186 wrote:
In my experience of wrist pain/injury - riding the bike is the easy bit, apart from the clutch. The things that got me were the constant pulling and tugging, getting gear on and off, wheeling bike out the garage etc etc. It's not the actual riding that gets you, it's everything that goes with it. I once managed to re-fuck my wrist simply by buttoning up my son's trousers at the wrong angle.

If you can get your gear on and off easily and don't have to move a scooter up any ramps or hills, then go for it. I would wait for the all clear though.


At the moment putting gear/clothes on is fine the pain on the wrist is if it bends backwards at all. Or trying to lift something heavy that is when it really kicks in.

EDIT: Just spoken to the doctor and she has said that motorcycling will be fine regarding the knee. Really should be cycling or swimming. But both of them are out of it.
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 21 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
police charged the driver with careless and dangerous driving at the scene.

So much wrong with this. Sad


TheSmiler wrote:
Since he has been sent for the driver alertness course as I didn't want to take it too far for the old prick.

For dangerous driving?

TheSmiler wrote:
Still the idiot is holding out on the fault. Not sure how.

1) You came out of nowhere doing 100mph, innit.
2) He (apparently) wasn't put in the position of pleading not guilty then being tried and convicted, so in his head, it's your fault.

TheSmiler wrote:
He also went for an extended driving test and failed.

First, a driving awareness course is an alternative to prosecution and points, so how did he get disqualified?

Second, I'm puzzled as to how you'd know that, since it's not directly relevant to the disposal of the offence and would be protected personal information.
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