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I am not fit for my job / studies, and worry those in charge/others will find out. |
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DrSnoosnoo wrote: | It's a strange one.
Throughout my PhD I was like, woah these guys are so much smarter than me, I don't know as much as them ...
But I was examined, by two academics, and they thought I was decent enough to just sort out some of my spelling and be given my Title.
Now in work I think the other way. I seem to think, get me in, give me a couple of weeks and I'll smash it - there's nothing I can't learn. |
This is more the topic of conversation... capable people who are at their job or study, but feel like they are a failure or no where near as good as the others.
A reverse Dunning-Kruger effect, essentially.
But yes, in jobs a lot of genuinely crap people get in to positions, that is usually because they are good at interviews, networking, CV righting or generally some part of their job.
One role I was in recently I was clearly crap at, but succeeded at many parts of it and can trust I have a good reference. But certainly not a good fit for me, and it nearly killed me.
Current job, teaching kidlets, I am probably pretty good at but feel like I am crap.
Who knows ____________________ Top cat
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I'm currently busy learning something I already know backwards and inside out having done it on average once a week for the last 16 years. That being TB skin testing. The single most mind-numbingly dull, repetative task I am expected to do in my job.
Some fuckwit has decided I need to be re-acreddited in it every two fucking years and also have to do TEN HOURS of recorded self study on the subject. The organisation responsible for this accreditation clearly know fuck all about the practicalities of what they are teaching so the questions in the assesment more often than not consist of utterly irrelevant minutiae contained within the syllabus, like what this years acronyms stand for. Or what date the first TB test was done. Shit like that which lend themselves to multiple choice questions.
Is the answer:
a) The answer
b) Something that sounds similar to the answer.
c) Something that would have been the answer if you fell for the trick question.
d) Nothing like the answer.
I have been amusing myself by putting blisteringly sarcastic answers in all the online self assessment sections in the certain knowledge nae fucker will read it.
My stated course objective is "To complete this rediculous box-ticking exercise with the minimum possible time and effort expended so I can get on with doing my actual work.". I've told my boss that's the kind of thing I'm putting too.
I don't know how this is relevant to the thread. Something about quality of training?
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Eh, I've felt like it in the past, but my job has been sufficiently nebulously defined for me to be able to fuck up a few times with no serious ill effects.
As such, I've decided to go off the deep end myself and start doing small-scale custom prototyping as a business. I have no idea if it's going to work, and I'm learning half the techniques as I go, but given the fact that I've proven to myself that I have the ability to learn and improve at a fair pace, I'm willing to give it a shot.
Tl;dr - yeah, I am sort of an impostor, but I'm OK with that. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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Yeah I had a fairly ego bruising experience a few years ago.
I was an "IT Consultant" working for a small IT services company in the arse end of nowhere. I was king of my little world and I learnt lots as I was the sole IT guy looking after my own company's environment while being sold out to customers where I'd typically find myself working with people with far less experience than me. Hence why they got a consultant in.
I felt clever and worthwhile. People came to me as the oracle of all knowledge.
Then I applied for and got a job working as a small cog in a large IT department for a Fortune 500 company in The City of London. Holy FUCK! What a change!
I found myself working with some unbelievably talented and intelligent people and suddenly I was the dunce. Probably took more than a year to drag myself up towards their level. And a lot of that time I felt like a fraud.
Still not sure I'm there.... although people treat me like I know what I'm talking about so still feels a bit like I'm faking it sometimes... ____________________ 2007 CBF1000-ABS - Commuter heaven | 1994 CBR600FR - Awaiting defibrillation |
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pinkyfloyd wrote: | I spent 20 years as a chef, during this time I have been head chef of many pub/restaurants, coffee shops, nursing homes and the like. I trained in hotels before that. I have even been head chef in a restaurant that was fully booked over the weekends 2 weeks in advance. I've been long term agency in the Hilton Hotel in Bath and I felt like a fraud in the catering trade.
I'm not a bad chef, but I am far from great, Many times I found myself asking myself "what am I doing here? Can I really do this?"
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Not to piss on your bonfire, but that doesn't sound like a great achievement for a 20 year career chef. 'Even' being head chef of a place fully booked 2 weeks in advance isn't that big of a deal, I know small pubs that get booked out a month in advance.
There's a lot of shit in the industry where people get promoted above the basics. There are a small number of self taught genius types who sort of give everyone else the impression they can run before they can crawl.
I spent 2 years at 1 Michelin level, then worked 5* hotel circuit and went to start working in local mid-high level restaurants. I felt completely confident in my abilities and always learning things. By the time I got my first head chef role at 24 I was already 4 years in fine dining, and 4 years working sections and learning at decent places, as well as doing stages in various high end places that took people for working experiences.
Now I'm a student I don't find myself feeling like I know anything at all and feel pretty fraudy. ____________________ Previous: GSF600, FZR600 x2, ZXR750, XT600 Tenere, CB125, CZ125, ETZ 250, ER5, CCM R30, DRZ400, RF600x4, RF900x2, GS500, VTR1000F, 640 SMC, CB250 NIGHTHAWK, GT550x3, GPX750 TE610, CB500, X11x2, SV650, ZING 125, TL1000R,CB250 Superdream, CBR1100XX |
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Tigerlea wrote: | Most of the comments I've read here |
arry wrote: | I've come to realise (and I can't say it in any way but to sound big-headed) that I'm near on invincible |
pinkyfloyd wrote: | I am a motorcycle instructor and I can say with confidence, I'm bloody good at it. Not just good, bloody good |
Joe wrote: | When you have the realisation that probably most of the people you work with are clueless and blagging it anyway, you stop thinking this way. |
hellkat wrote: | Can't say I've ever suffered from it. Apparently other people think I rocked as well. |
DrSnoosnoo wrote: | I seem to think, get me in, give me a couple of weeks and I'll smash it - there's nothing I can't learn. |
stinkwheel wrote: | I'm happy I got into and through my course and into my job on merit, I don't have the fraud thing |
The Shaggy D.A. wrote: | So, imposter? No. |
Jayy wrote: | I believe I'm worth a premium price and charge accordingly per hour. I didn't always think like this though, it took many years of thinking I wasn't good enough to charge more for my time. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 64 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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