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Okay so the Cregbox arrived. Doddle to set up and does exactly what it says on the tin. Very pleased, goodbye Virgin and ever increasing price hikes for crap service. |
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Pjay wrote: | You can't talk sense to someone that sticks by their purchase as the best and blinkers themselves to sense.
Firesticks are shit and the people that bought them were idiots for being duped. For the same money you could have purchased a much faster box, with a full function remote and ethernet port. Buying a firestick is like seeing all your friends driving cars and deciding to join in by buying a pedal kart.
No kodi boxes dont crash all over the place, I cant even remember the last time mine did, probably back in Helix or Isengard. I have also sold bundles of them to people in the past and I've had 2 returns, both boxes had issues with the memory addressing, so yeah some can have or develop faults, nothing is perfect. The vast majority of boxes are running fine to this day, with no issues.
Anyone that buys a firestick for kodi these days, is a moron.
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I never said they were the best, just that they do the job. But then I must be wrong, along with this guy, and these guys. If you remember way back to when discussions on the subject were civilised, it seemed to be older builds that were causing issues. And an example of Android boxes crashing. |
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CaNsA wrote: | You do know that Amazon Fire kit are just crappy android boxes/sticks right? |
Blinkers are on.
He thinks that because his works, it's the best option.
Android boxes have also come a long way in just the last year, they are more than twice the power they were a year ago, have much better hardware and are incredibly stable. The early ones that had crashing problems were almost always fixed by removing the third party apps that were on the 'fully loaded' boxes back then. Nowadays the manufacturers have have learned that less is more (and most likely less returns).
Yes firesticks can run Kodi, but only the most idiotic of people would suggest that they can do it better than a box with 3x the processing power. Getting a bunch of 'I hate android boxes, because...' anecdotes from firestick owners is also pretty poor form.
Firesticks are fine, they work, they are cheap and accessible, but in no way are they anywhere near as competent as a £25 android box that you can buy on Ebay and put a nice stable, upto date build on.
To be fair, you only really have to look at the build developers themselves for proof of what I am saying, they even do 'lite' versions of their builds for the firesticks. It doesn't take a genius to work out why. |
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When have I mentioned trying it on boxes or laptops? I said it barely worked on my tablet and doesn't work at all on my phone. Obviously you have the Cansa attitude of blaming the user because android's perfect, when the reality's it's a lottery with how apps run and if they even run at all*.
*one thing that iOS does better |
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To clarify, I have over the past couple of years installed and tested kodi on many different platforms, here are my ratings for each device:
S805 based Andriod boxes - 7/10 - Not bad, but at all, but lack power for full functionality.
S905/x/912 based Android boxes - 9/10 - Much more powerful boxes than the older S805 and it shows in the general use. You can have a stream running in the background of the gui and there is no noticeable slowdown when scrolling through the menu screens. Mostly let down by poor remotes, but still not terrible.
Raspberry Pi 3 (I wont bother with the older versions here) 9/10 - Runs perfectly fine, everything is as it should be and is at least on par with the newer Android boxes for smooth navigation and overall slickness of the gui. Would be 10/10 if it were not again for the lack of decent control, but that's not really the Pi's fault. Buy a decent Bluetooth/Wireless compact keyboard/media controller and this could well be the best of all platforms. Added bonus is that you can install it as part of Retropie, so not only can you watch great media, you can also play tens of thousands of retro games.
Android Tablets - 8/10 - While very competent, the small screen is not ideal for watching blockbusters and lengthy binges of box sets. Ideal for holidays and time away from home, but not a serious single solution.
Amazon Firestick - 5/10 - Once you are used to how Kodi can and should run, it becomes very apparent that the firestick is behind in power by a couple of generations. The gui is slower than all other offerings and crawls to almost a halt if you run a video in the background of the gui. This may well not be an issue for most users, but it certainly brings home the lack of power in this little stick of joy. The lack of processing power is also obvious when the addons do a batch of updates if you leave the device off for a week or two. While it slows down every other device, it grinds down on the firestick and makes you question if it's ever going to end. Ok for casual bedroom use, but frustrating for everyday use. Oh and the remote is terribad.
Windows Laptop - 9/10 - Yup, of course it works wonderfully, it only loses a point due to the small screen.
Windows based media server - 10/10 - This is it, we have the winrar. Wonderful in every way (except cost). If someone could sell these retail at under £100, they would reach global domination within a year.
I do hope my findings help people decide if they are in the market for a kodi streaming box.
My findings are my own, no money has changed hands to influence my ratings and all equipment was purchased by myself. |
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That civilised debate didn't last long did it. |
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I've tried different boxes over the years and fire TV and the stick and rpi2.
I started off on the old MX box which was pretty dire.
Sort of put me off 'Chinese' android boxes
Had a few faults on the m8 and different variants.
Well I thought I'd try the newer box s905 for £25 on amazon with a half decent remote (less buttons)
And what a pleasant surprise.
No junk apps.
All the apps like modbro ,showbox,kodi with a decent build on.
I was impressed and this was the basic 8gb/1gb ram.
Wireless is also good which is a brucy bonus.
Zenopllige Z3 Android TV Box Amlogic S905 Android 5.1 Lollipop OS TV Box Quad Core 1G/8G 4K Google Streaming Media Players with WiFi HDMI DLNA https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N3QO16T/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apap_RuEidzGZxcmlt
BTW I have no affiliation
Just a cracking box |
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sutty86 wrote: | I've tried different boxes over the years and fire TV and the stick and rpi2.
I started off on the old MX box which was pretty dire.
Sort of put me off 'Chinese' android boxes
Had a few faults on the m8 and different variants.
Well I thought I'd try the newer box s905 for £25 on amazon with a half decent remote (less buttons)
And what a pleasant surprise.
No junk apps.
All the apps like modbro ,showbox,kodi with a decent build on.
I was impressed and this was the basic 8gb/1gb ram.
Wireless is also good which is a brucy bonus.
Zenopllige Z3 Android TV Box Amlogic S905 Android 5.1 Lollipop OS TV Box Quad Core 1G/8G 4K Google Streaming Media Players with WiFi HDMI DLNA https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N3QO16T/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apap_RuEidzGZxcmlt
BTW I have no affiliation
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These are the sort of boxes I tell people to go for, the manufacturers are not filling them with junk apps that clog the system up and they really are nice and fast out of the box. They could be really nice and just install a wizard in kodi so you could select a build of your choice, but overall China has got its house in order. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 49 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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