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PostPosted: 09:28 - 27 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
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Point out to me where I said that.

You're fine with women being lashed for adultery because they can't come up with another 3 female witnesses to prove rape


Again point out where I've said that. Your argument is a straw man. I know You're intelligent enough to work out that being ok with what they call it isn't the same as being ok with the action.
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 27 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But under British law it's not? So why are the UK media still calling it rape?


You are an idiot if you think this is, even remotely, a valid argument.


in this statement you express a view that whatever their law says it is is what it is. This can be, reasonably, taken to mean your opinion extends to all foreign laws such as the Saudi example given.

If taken further you are saying that if French law classified the ruffling of a persons hair as rape, then our media should refer to all french hair rufflers as rapists....Madness, your Mad, that's a Crazy opinion...Behave.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 27 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeywrencher wrote:

in this statement you express a view that whatever their law says it is is what it is.


In their country, if their law says it's something, then, in their country, that's the case.

UK media DOES (not should, does) report events in other countries as they would be seen in those countries. The UK MSM aren't behaving differently for this event than for any other one. In reporting, outlets like the BBC don't call stoning "brutal murder" they call it stoning. It's supposed to be part of non-biased reporting.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 27 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
Monkeywrencher wrote:

in this statement you express a view that whatever their law says it is is what it is.


Erm, no, you imagined that.


Ok so what did you mean? because a few of us are reading it as that...you'll need to clarify.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 27 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeywrencher wrote:
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Erm, no, you imagined that.


Ok so what did you mean? because a few of us are reading it as that...you'll need to clarify.


edited to clarify at the time you replied...
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 27 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
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You're fine with women being lashed for adultery because they can't come up with another 3 female witnesses to prove rape

Again point out where I've said that.

You are, or you aren't. If you refuse to deny being Hitler, conclusions will be drawn.


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outlets like the BBC don't call stoning "brutal murder" they call it stoning.

"So-called", they caveat.

Why come the so-called BBC are just calling this a straight up rape then?

"Mouthy 'youth worker' given a quick slap," doesn't rouse the rabble quite as well.

I see it took him two weeks to stop blocking a bed. Did they give him open heart surgery chest-rape while they were at it?
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 27 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

"So-called", they caveat.


Not any more... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38583837
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 27 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

"So-called", they caveat.


Not any more... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38583837


You are kind of making his point with that one though Scared. They handle the reporting on that with kid gloves. How do you suppose the DM would report it?

In fact, the difference is stark https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3803714/Lured-death-mother-sister-Bradford-honour-killing-victim-called-15-times-relatives-crying-phone-saying-father-dying.html
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 27 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

"So-called", they caveat.

Not any more... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38583837

You make a "good" point.
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 27 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:

Applying your logic, women aren't genitally mutilated in foreign countries and in the UK, they are purified for Allah, no matter where it happens.


You appear to have no ability to comprehend.

mpd72 wrote:

Inverted commas mean?


They indicate direct speech or mark out a word/phrase that's being discussed, or has been quoted elsewhere.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 27 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
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mpd72 wrote:

Inverted commas mean?


They indicate direct speech or mark out a word/phrase that's being discussed, or has been quoted elsewhere.


They also denote words or a name used by others, but not necessarily by you. As in "So-called Honour Killings"...

hth.


Others call them "so-called," but not you?
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 27 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer to call them muslim killings, it's more truthful based upon that's who's doing them and that's who is being killed.
It usually happens when one muslim isn't as quite as pious as the next, then the only option is to be peacedâ„¢ to death I guess.
The political correctness industry will ensure anything but the truth is used to describe what that lot are up to.
Mainly because the muslim community has a million shrieking nutjobs ready to explode in reaction to any kind of
offence they perceive. Certain quarters of our society are so terrified of them kicking off that they just kowtow to
their constant demands for special treatment in just about every facet of everyday life. Terrible things like cartoons
being published of their head nutjob and repeat kiddiefiddler Allah cause such offence there will be
fatwas flying around like confetti yet offing your own daughter is ok apparently and a very holy thing to do. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 01 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The police's version is they were performing an ID card check suspecting a group of youths were involved in drugs. The well-built suspect kicked off and 2 of them needed to restrain him but one copper accidentally gassed the other who fell to the floor. The remaining police officer hit the suspect around the legs with a baton until he also fell to the floor. Unfortunately, during the course of this altercation, the suspect's trousers slipped down and the baton accidentally went into his anus.

The suspect was injured to the point where he was taken to hospital by the police and operated on, Thursday evening. The doctor's report stated:

- A 10 centimetre deep contusion within the suspect's anus
- Bleeding from both anus and mouth
- The doctor noted a significant number of freshly made injuries to the suspect's head and face

Both the doctor's report and the CCTV present contradict the police officers' testimonies and we can see video where there are four police officers. Video shows a horizontal baton strike to the anus which appears to have been responsible for the damage.

In France or in England, having a baton shoved up the arse is arguably not rape but I would reasonably describe this as really ruining your day.

https://www.parismatch.com/Actu/Faits-divers/Quatre-policiers-soupconnes-de-viol-en-reunion-sur-un-jeune-homme-1181012
https://www.lemonde.fr/police-justice/article/2017/02/05/aulnay-sous-bois-ouverture-d-une-information-judiciaire-pour-violences-en-reunion-les-policiers-toujours-en-garde-a-vue_5074859_1653578.html
https://www.europe1.fr/faits-divers/seine-saint-denis-quatre-policiers-en-garde-a-vue-pour-viol-en-reunion-sur-un-jeune-homme-2969117
https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/02/06/un-policier-inculpe-pour-viol-avec-une-matraque
https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2017/02/04/01016-20170204ARTFIG00066-aulnay-sous-bois-quatre-policiers-soupconnes-de-viol-en-reunion.php

etc...
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 02 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
So because the suspect was black, he's definitely a victim yes?


He was gassed, beaten around the head and had a good rogering from a telescopic baton to the point he was hospitalised, operated on (twice, to rebuild his anus) and remained in hospital for a while.

Despite his over-exhuberance towards le vieux Bill, I think that qualifies him as a victim.
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 02 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

gorillaonabike wrote:
mpd72 wrote:
So because the suspect was black, he's definitely a victim yes?


He was gassed, beaten around the head and had a good rogering from a telescopic baton to the point he was hospitalised, operated on (twice, to rebuild his anus) and remained in hospital for a while.

Despite his over-exhuberance towards le vieux Bill, I think that qualifies him as a victim.


I agree with you. Do you see what others are saying even if they don't agree with us?
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 02 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

gorillaonabike wrote:

He was gassed, beaten around the head and had a good rogering from a telescopic baton to the point he was hospitalised, operated on (twice, to rebuild his anus) and remained in hospital for a while.


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PostPosted: 11:43 - 03 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:40 - 03 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
All the lefties on another forum keep making claims of this CCTV which proves the police brutally "raped" him with a baton on a racist attack.

You see, my issue with this is that the news footage I saw, had a witness who claimed the "victim" was taken around a corner as that location had no CCTV.

All there is as far as I can see is some very far away grainy mobile phone footage of dindunuffink struggling whilst a couple of officers try to detain him. All you can make out is one swiping him across his arse with the baton. He didn't look to be too injured when they walked him to the police car.

It seems he's become an automatic victim by some, before any real facts are known, just for being black and detained by the police. Claims of clear CCTV footage appear to be some for of Liberal Internet myth.


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