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 Posted: 18:46 - 27 Feb 2017 Post subject: Re: Is it a good time to buy a new GSX-R750? |
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| baderlfc wrote: | Also what are dealers, specifically Suzuki, like for negotiating on new bike prices? |
You can usually find big discounts on new/pre-reg models on eBay, but not for the R750, apart from a couple of hooky looking ones that I suspect are grey (well, red) imports.
Given the falling sales of sports bikes, it's possible that Suzuki have only imported a handfull and are prepared to sit on them indefinitely - they're notorious for fobbing off New Old Stock, sometimes 3 year old models. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| stevo as b4 wrote: | This leaves a tiny but focused 1000cc market for sports bike sales. |
It's certainly diminished but it's not exactly tiny either. A quick review of howmanyleft.com suggests the following numbers of sportsbikes registered in the first three quarters of 2016:
BMW S1000RR - 541
Yamaha R1 - 490
Honda Fireblade - 450
Kawasaki ZX-10R - 418
Ducati 1299 / R -297
Ducati 899/959 - 251
Suzuki GSX-R750 - 230
Triumph Daytona 675 - 157
Honda CBR600RR - 151
Suzuki GSX-R1000 - 133
Suzuki GSX-R600 - 129
Aprilia RSV4 - 107
MV Agusta F3 - 85
Yamaha R6 - 38
MV Agusta F4 - 24
KTM RC8R - 18
Total - 3539
All 2016 models included of all variants, plus reasonable/conservative assumptions for new registrations of prior model years. It's difficult for some models as they don't differentiate model years, and in other cases, they're selling older model years. So those figures won't be 100% right, but I doubt they're far wrong.
Figures for Q4, 2016 aren't available yet. Q3 probably caught much of the 66 plate registrations, but there might be a Q4 uplift to reflect Winter and pre-EURO4 discounts.
Given that these machines probably sell for an average of £12-13k, that's a gross market value of c.£45m over the first three quarters of 2016, just in the UK. Probably in excess of £50m for the full year.
The GSX-R750 has been an irrelevant race bike platform for many years now, but it's an important and iconic bike for Suzuki, and is probably still one of the best all-round engine configurations for a road sportsbike (they're still selling). It'll be interesting to see what happens. Suzuki certainly aren't afraid to keep running the same model with minor tweaks! If they wanted to develop it, then the 750 model has shared a platform with the 1000cc bike in the past, and I don't see why they couldn't do that again, without the need for significant R&D investment. |
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I can't see how a 750cc sports bike is great or special or even worth bothering with if only one manufacturer still makes one, in the same way that Mazda kept on making rotary engined sports coupes when the engine design was proven not to be a great idea or have any real future.
You can't tell me that GSXR heritage keeps the sales of the 750cc strong and that demand is really strong for them. Its an irrelevant sports bike capacity for a 4cylinder engine and no one else is probably ever going to bother making another one.
It does seem that there's alot of GSXR fan boi's that suggest only a 750 is any good, and that both a 600 and a 1000 of which there's a much bigger choice of competitive examples arnt as good as a magical 750?  |
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I would have bought a K4 GSXR750 but alas, they are slightly too small for me. The GSXR1000s are (were) bigger than the 600 and 750s so fit me better.
Damn shame really as the GSXR750 was epic..  ____________________ NSR125RR - ZXR750H1 - ZX9R E1 - GSF600S - GSF600SK3 - VFR400-NC30 - SV1000N - ST1100-R - CBR900RR-R - GSF1200SK5 - GSF600SK1 - VFR1200FA - GSXR1000K2 - ZZR1400 D8F
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