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samkent6
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PostPosted: 01:34 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: MOD 1 Reply with quote

Hello everyone! Brand new to these forums so go easy Wink (sorry for long read)

Okay so. I did my CBT last week. Never been on a bike before. Didn't put a foot down once or even come close to dropping the bike. My slow control was obviously a bit rusty and jerky to begin with because of trying to balance throttle, rear brake and clutch. All Alien to me coming from a car.. I'm booked in for my theory tomorrow.

I just have a few questions about mod 1 and the training as I'm already thinking about it. Although I seemed to pick up slow control fairly quickly on the 125, I feel like moving onto the bigger bike is going to cause problems because of my very limited experience with motorbikes. Do the big bikes handle differently at slow speeds? Do you feel the weight more? What are your experiences with mod 1 and training for it, did you find it easy? (I'm 19 so I won't be training on the DAS bikes. It'll be the 500's)

I refuse to get a 125 because it will be useless considering where I live and you can't take them on motorways. So the only practice I will be getting is with my instructor.
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PostPosted: 01:46 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big bikes are much easier to ride, particularly on mod1. It'll take you about ten minutes to get used to the extra weight. The fast mod1 manoeuvres are a breeze on a big bike, and for the slow stuff the extra weight is actually an advantage, makes the bike far more forgiving of minor mistakes.
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PostPosted: 08:32 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Big bikes are much easier to ride, particularly on mod1. It'll take you about ten minutes to get used to the extra weight. The fast mod1 manoeuvres are a breeze on a big bike, and for the slow stuff the extra weight is actually an advantage, makes the bike far more forgiving of minor mistakes.


This pretty much. I tell the students its pay off and compromise when it comes to bigger bikes. The pay off is as above, they are so much easier to control, they are more stable and feel more planted.

The compromise, they can get you into trouble very quickly, much more quicker than a 125 so they do need that little bit more respect.
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It probably comes as a surprise to most learners just how easier it is to handle a bigger bike. However, it's probably even more important not to grab the front brakes when doing slow turns (like the U turn in the test) as you'll fall off Very Happy Back brake is all you need when slow maneuvering.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top tip:
If you pop a wheelie between each exercise, the examiner will gift you a free Rainpal™ voucher.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above. Think of the extra weight as extra stability.

On the Mod 1, it's a very easy test to pass, or to fail. It'll be nerves that get you rather than the technicalities. DVSA videos cover it, and it's actually got a little easier since that was made.

Take some slow breaths before each exercise, you'll be fine.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:
Top tip:
If you pop a wheelie between each exercise, the examiner will gift you a free Rainpal™ voucher.


Noted
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:


Take some slow breaths before each exercise, you'll be fine.


That was the best advice my instructor gave me. Before each bit, 5 seconds of big deep breaths to run through what you are going to do. Im quite a panicky person but it really helped me.

Big-bike-wise, the first 5 minutes (for me) were very intimidating. After that, its 100% easier and a 125 feels like a childs toy.
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just been through a similar experience - car driver for 7 years, went on a bike for my first time ever when I did my CBT and was terrified about moving onto a bigger bike.

You won't believe it until you feel it, but, after you get spend about 3 minutes on a bigger bike, you'll love it. The extra weight helps you feel more planted, it feels just as easy (if not easier) to handle than the 125s.

Module 1 training is hit and miss with people - for me, I struggled with the U-Turn and everything else felt pretty comfortable.

On test day, take every exercise as it's own test. Listen to the instructor (even though by the time you take the test you may know exactly what he's about to say, still listen and if unsure about ANYTHING - just ASK).

After he's done, he'll step back, just sit with the bike in neutral, take 10-30 seconds and breathe - just think about everything you've learned, what you need to do and need to avoid doing to complete the manoeuvre.

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PostPosted: 13:49 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you everyone for the fantastic advice! Passed my theory today so I will be booking my first mod 1 lesson when I get home. I'm quite excited 😁
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Practice for Mod 1 Reply with quote

Hi, I'm practicing on old ww2 aerodrome for my Mod1.
Finding it pretty dificult because I am an old duffer, 76 today as it happens.
Does anyone know the various distances on the Mod 1 course.
i.e. distance between cones on the slalom and the figure 8.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldie wrote:
It probably comes as a surprise to most learners just how easier it is to handle a bigger bike. However, it's probably even more important not to grab the front brakes when doing slow turns (like the U turn in the test) as you'll fall off Very Happy Back brake is all you need when slow maneuvering.


I'm surprised that I picked it up so quickly in the CBT to be honest. I thought I was going to be spending half of the day trying to keep both feet up off the ground. But once I had got used to the throttle, gears and clutch, I didn't really need to think about balance, only turning my head to face where I wanted to go
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Re: Practice for Mod 1 Reply with quote

proctor wrote:
Hi, I'm practicing on old ww2 aerodrome for my Mod1.
Finding it pretty dificult because I am an old duffer, 76 today as it happens.
Does anyone know the various distances on the Mod 1 course.
i.e. distance between cones on the slalom and the figure 8.


https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/motorcycle-manoeuvring-area-diagrams

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PostPosted: 23:23 - 11 Mar 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldie wrote:
it's probably even more important not to grab the front brakes when doing slow turns
When the author Spike Milligan was doing his basic rifle training in WW2 he had a bad habit of snatching the trigger. The sergeant told him "squeeze it slowly, like a birds' tits'. Same applies to motorcycle brakes.
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