1982 Suzuki FZ50 no spark???

[theoilman]

I am in the US and just purchased a 1982 Suzuki FZ50 that I can not get spark from. When I purchased it, it was about 80% together with the rest of it in a box.
The previous owner said the ignition coil on the magneto was bad, but the odd thing is, I can not find a CDI unit or voltage regulator on the bike or in the box, Suzuki seems to have taken these items off the parts schematic too. My stator/magneto only has 4 wires and everything I see in schematics shows it having 5 wires, the red/white is the one missing.
Does anyone have a 1982 FZ50 that could tell me where I would find or even send me pictures of the CDI box or where it mounts. I cant even find open connectors in the wire harness...
This is a real head scratcher.
Thank you for any help!
Paul

[jaffa90]

1982, would this model have 6 volt system and a set of breaker points / condenser in the magneto area instead of a c.d.i.?????
I cannot find a wiring diagram for your model but is this similar?

[theoilman]

It definitely does not have points. It does have a 6-volt system though. It's hard to say if the schematic is the same or similar, I can't make out the wire colors.
For some reason I just can't find any information on the FZ50's here in the States and the FA50 magnetos are different.

[jaffa90]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Points-Centre-for-1982-Suzuki-FZ-50-Z-Suzy-/391432185361?hash=item5b232d2611:g:EMsAAOSwjMJXDLzX

6volt with a c.d.i. ?????
New on me but i could be wrong,
A modification could have been started on this bike??????????

[theoilman]

Thank you for the reply and link.
They must have done something different for bikes in the US.
Here is a link to the stator that looks to fit my bike.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/282166629136?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I have no signs of points or condenser, but then again I can not find the CDI or where it plugs in either. It seems this is a bit of a rare bike here and not much info.
The Suzuki on-line parts schematic does not show CDI or points....

[jaffa90]

The plot thickens!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SUZUKI-FZ50-FZ-50-NEW-GENUINE-STATOR-ASSY-RARE-32101-02311-/272368677427?hash=item3f6a703233:g:fxAAAOSwGtRX0QcX&vxp=mtr

[hmmmnz]

I replyed on the other thread,
If you have a us bike you'll definitely have a child.
I put some links in the post
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[theoilman]

Interesting on the stator with points.
My stator has 4 wires, other stators on US bikes have 5 wires....
Suzuki is not making this easy.... I will try to take a picture of my stator and post them soon.
Thanks for your help and input!

[theoilman]

Thanks Hmmmnz,
I did come across that picture of the CDI regulator etc but cant figure out a part number, but that one on ebay looks promising (I don't know how I missed that one).
Now to locate a regulator and figure out how they both attach to the harness.

[theoilman]

I emailed the guy with the used CDI on ebay and he cant find it anymore... I am starting to think they don't really exist... at least in this part of the world.
If anyone has a CDI and voltage regulator for sale, please let me know

[theoilman]

I just found a guy with the same 1982 FZ50 I have. He is going to send me pictures tomorrow. Hopefully I will have some answers.
Ill keep you posted.

[jaffa90]

More pics,
https://www.hondarestoration.com/for_sale_motoqs.asp?m=Motorcycle%20Parts&p=Parts%20and%20Accessories&c=10063&k=Suzuki%20FZ50

[hmmmnz]

can you post pics of your flywheel and stator,
?
that link you sent had nothing fz related on it
[url=ebay]https://www.ebay.com/itm/80-Suzuki-FZ-50-Good-CDI-Igniter-Ignitor-32900-02331-070000-0670-FastFreeShip-/301740452757?hash=item464121eb95:g:gJsAAOSwNSxU09O-&vxp=mtr[/url] or any of the 4 wire fa50 cdi's will work as well
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[theoilman]

It seems that the 1982 & 1983 FZ50's here in the states use the battery as a voltage regulator and they do not have a CDI unit. Still not 100% certain of that....
The previous owner said he thought the ignition coil on the stator was bad but I am not sure how to test it. Is there an easy test to check if a stator coil or even an ignition coil is good or bad? I have an Ohm meter but am not sure how to use it....

[hmmmnz]

yeah just measure it for continuity,
its just a coil of wire, should measure 3 or 4 ohms,
if it measures in the 1000's or more of ohms its had a brake in the copper, if it measure under half an ohm then its short circuited
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[theoilman]

Thanks, I will try to check it soon.
I did find a new FZ50 magneto ignition coil (nothing from the FA50 fits this magneto) that is shipping from Japan ($20 including shipping for a genuine Suzuki coil). Hopefully once I get it installed I will have spark. I will keep you posted.

[theoilman]

Hi, I have been traveling for the last 2 weeks and while I was gone, I ordered and received a new ignition coil for the magneto.
I got home on Saturday and installed it on Sunday, I now have spark. After cleaning the carb the FZ is now running.
After much research, It looks like the 1982 & 1983 FZ50's (at least here in the states) do not have a CDI box or a voltage regulator.
It seems they use the battery as the regulator and they must have incorporated the cdi into the ignition coil.
Thank you all for your help.
Paul

[hmmmnz]

no points at all?
thats weird if its built into the coil.
photos
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