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Have to give you credit for your tenacity Arcane, BUT.... there are some people who shouldn't be allowed to operate any pece of machinary with more moving parts than a pair of scissors without adult supervision....
You MAY be one of them... and I would suggest you stick to your sums... and working them out with a pencil or bic biro... I think a Parka pen MIGHT have too many complex components for you....
If I need some-one to calculate the circumference of a tyre, or the square root of my bank balance, I'm sure you are the man.. but Seriously? I wouldn't trust you with a foot-pump to blow up a pair of push-bike tyres, let alone power tools!
NOT trying to be nasty.... BUT, in the real world where the square root of my bank balance is pretty much irrelevant, and wont make the bank manager any happier no matter how many mathematical proofs you offer him to suggest perfectly reasonable solvency.... we have to deal with facts... like that you are mechanically inept.
Stick to the sums. Go work for an insurance company or something; redefine their risk to earnings ratio and make the big money to pay people who dont have your mechanical disadvantages, to get their hands dirty with drills and spanner and shit!
NOW, go put the drill down before you make a REAL mess of things.
Before drilling into a stud or sheared fastener, you should, IF you had any mechanical training or acumen have flatted the top with a hand file, then very vert carefully used a centre punch to mark where you wanted to place the hole and keep the centre of the first very fine pilot drill centred when you start the hole.... in a PILLAR DRILL!
And before even that; you would have got the engine block on the pillar drill bench; you would have checked the alignment of the stud, and chcked and clamped the engne case to the pillar bed, so you were sure a) the engine wouldn't move, ad b) that when you drilled into your stud, that was ALL you drilled into, and the drill went straight, and not skew ad started taking metal outthe bit of engine case you want to keep.
Then you would have stage drlled, first, possbly with a cetreing bit, then a fine pilot drill, probably aroud 1.5mm, then, opened the hole up to maybe 2.5 or 3mm.... assuming its an M6 stud, with a nominal diameter inside the threads of 4.6mm you would NOT go any bigger than a 4mm drill as a last cut, just to upen the hole up and give room to get an extractor in... and leave metal around the hole to give some tolerence for setting innacuracy to avoid drilling through the treads and into the casing.
THIS is a pretty accurate ob, in a machine shop..... NOT somethig for a munkey wth a battery operated screwdriver and a LOT more 'imagination' and book learning than common sense.
When you had your hole n the stud... THEN, you would be a fool to try using an HSS EZ-Out reverse helix extractor, as such a small one wont go very far down the hole before it s startng to expad the std you are screwing it int into the thread holding it, and it will shear... and be impossible to drill out as its steel is as hard as a drill bit!
A flute extractor hammered into the hole, would likely give more grip, and made of softer steel, provided you have some sense of 'feel' not shear.
BUT, this is offering stuff you have probably no notion of, and even less experience about, and your inteligence is begging an argance that ts 'just metal! uts ad bolts! IDIOTS that dont have two GCSE's to rub together can fix this, so I AUGHT to be able to.... no, no you shouldn't... and it is that inteligence, and relience on it and the arogance that your kind of inteligence must make you more able than others to 'learn' such craft tasks that s WHY you really shouldn't be allowed to operate anything with more moving parts than a pair of scissors without adult supervision.
As an engineer, who has seved his time the work-shop, I 'might' for expedience tackle sch a job with a hack-and wrecker, cobolt drill and a practiced eye, and I might even get the job done.... eve though I am by comparison to some here, an rank amateur office jockey... BUT, I at least know t is NOT the best way to try tackling the job, AND how it should be done... you don't even know that.
So stop. Take a long hard look at what damage you have already done; and get some-one who knows how, to do it 'properly'... this is really not your forte, and this job is WAY above your pay-grade!
And throw that fucking battery operated screw-driver away, before you get any more daft ideas of carnage you can cause with it!
Sorry to be brutal, but you are an accidet looking for somewhere to happen, and ore 'help' we give you bigger the accdent you will likely cause for the encouragement.
Stop; recognis your talents; realise your limitations, and find a way to work within them. And get that over active imagination and inteligence and nthsiasm in check, and STOP letting it drag you like a pair of run away cart horses into ever bigger trouble. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Don't go up in half mm increments it's not necessary and highly likely to snag & break the drill. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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I have put a pillar drill on your credit card. It will be delivered on Monday (because I know where you live)
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Arcane1729 wrote: | they don't really seem to have a fucking clue |
I know a blind woman, married to a blind man... listening to him ask her where something is in the kitchen, really makes me question the merit of the phrase "Blind leading the blind"... but is it is rather appropriate in this situation....
Hardware stores make money from flogging stuff to folk, who probably want to put up some shelves for the missus, or put up some hooks in the shed to hang the strimmer on.
They do NOT sell dedicated garage or engineering equipment.. I mean compare how much of their stock is the same as in Halfords, and even they don't really flog much proper garage equipment; mostly just stuff to do DIY oil changes and fit the hi-fi they flog, along side thier push-bikes!
"Hint", if I sellotape it to a sledge hammer and smack you round the head with it, should be WHAT you are trying to do is FAR beyond the sort of general Home DIY high-street stores cater to.
You are attempting precision machine shop engineering of the sort there are probably only two of three precision machine shops tooled up to do that sort of work, in your town, making their money from reconditioning bus, truck and classic car engines, obscure industrial plant, or 'one off' bespoke indistrial tooling. And out of a population of a few million, all thier employees and all the ameterurs with the sort of nouse to know what they are doing could probably be sat on a single mini-bus... they will not generate enough trade between them to support some-one to keep a shop for them!
Ergo; it is no surprise you are not getting good advice in a store that sells loft insulation and garden ornaments! It's like going into a Supermarket and asking one of the shelf stackers on hints what spices would be best for making an authentic heut cuisine moussaka... which, probably stands a slightly better chance of getting a useful sensible answer!
Like I said, this is well above your pay grade. STOP, and find some-one who can do the job properly, ad if you are really really keen and enthusiastic, ask them if you can watch how they do it, to 'learn' something, rather than blindly attacking poor unsuspecting bits of metal with ignorance and a battery operated screw-driver!
You didn't learn your numbers, by picking up a calculator and trying to figure it out; and wondering why tackling differential calculus you kept getting the wrong answers, did you? You started by being TAUGHT how to count, didn't you?
Same deal here...
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Arcane1729 wrote: | I am trying my best to drill dead straight with engine in one hand combi drill in the other |
STOP
Please... please, PLEASE... just stop! Now, before you wreak any more carnage! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 37 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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