Carbon monoxide from exhausts?

[UnknownStuntm...]

I think EU laws have made engines safer etc, but are they still dangerous enough that they can kill?

Starting the bike up in the garage in the morning, letting it warm up - how much before you get woosy enough for a sit down, permanently? What about diesel engines, can they be considered safer?

[grr666]

Diesel = Particulates that will get you eventually.
Petrol = Fumes that will get you quicker.
And to answer, about 20 seconds because no cat. Not how it left the factory mind you, and there's your problem.
Whatever they insist of fitting at manufacture can still be removed by a well meaning idiot.
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[kgm]

Why not just wheel it out first? Makes more a racket in the garage anyway.

[P.]

[RhynoCZ]

Yes, that is also what makes me question the whole system. You buy a motorcycle, with CAT and exhaust tuned to match the regulation only for you to then go, take the CAT and exhaust off and put an open exhaust on it and no body cares.

Why bother with emissions of motorcycles, when the above happens all the time.
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[Northern Monkey]

Your cat takes about 3 or 4 miles to get up to temperature to start working. A factory spec exhaust makes no difference when it's too cold to work.
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[Minty]

My boiler is in the garage so I have a carbon monoxide detector in there, it does not take many blips of the throttle to set it off.
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[Hawkeye1250FA]

[qarka]

[Hawkeye1250FA]

I like the smell too

So yeah I suppose.

[RhynoCZ]

[Hawkeye1250FA]

Makes sense...

You'll forgive me however if I just take your word for it rather than testing.

[RhynoCZ]

[Hawkeye1250FA]

on that note:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4334892/Couple-died-fumes-caused-car-modification.html

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[Pete.]

[stevo as b4]

I do like the smell of a big old diesel engine cold starting with an excess of fuel. Its usually a white smoke that goes with it. My car just smells of neat petrol from the exhaust, and it's nowhere near such a present smell as say a big Gardener diesel starting on a cold day.

[grr666]

Winter startups on the sprinter yield some nice smelling diesel smoke. Reminds me of the bus garage first thing in the morning.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

I have heard that on a catalysed car (with the cat working) it is effectively impossible to kill yourself just with CO poisoning. That said in an enclosed spare you would land up running out of oxygen probably. Older cars have the cats quite a way from the engine and will take ages to warm up. Newer ones mostly have a cat in the manifold to warm up quickly.

There are times when I have been very careless with non catalysed engines running in an enclosed space. Still here.

All the best

Katy
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[RhynoCZ]

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[NJD]

.. And I figured I was loosing out by being out in the open constantly.

<Removes garage from next location wish list>
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[DrDonnyBrago]

When I bought my bike, I hadn't passed my test yet so couldn't ride it, but the seller started it up in his garage so I could hear it. Left it running for about 5 minutes with the garage door shut, 600cc, no cat, I certainly felt a bit odd walking out of there.