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Private therapy - good return? |
I spent quite a large sum, and saw a massive improvement in life quality/skills |
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I spent quite a large sum, and saw improvement. Glad I did it. |
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I spent quite a large sum, and saw no real improvement. Should have had a holiday. |
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I spent quite a large sum, and felt worse afterwards because of the money use. |
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5% |
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I started it, but bailed when it wasn't working. |
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I started it, but bailed when I realised the cost. |
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I did it on the NHS, and it was cracking! |
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5% |
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I did it on the NHS, and it was worth my time, but glad I didn't pay. |
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I did it on the NHS, but it would have been worth the GBP1000 |
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Is that chair firmly bolted down? Good. |
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Sun Wukong |
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Posted: 10:04 - 23 Mar 2017 Post subject: Therapy "Bang for buck" |
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So, leaving aside Auntie NHS ponying up for you...
Therapy...
Does it do much more than spending the same amount of money on a nice holiday or whores... ?
I have some () issues that I wouldn't mind working through, and every now and then I look in to it.
I had a lovely meeting with a yank shrink today. Final rate $250 per session... or $125 for 30 minute sessions.
Looking around the UK, prices are 40-80 GBP per hour, so clearly better value in the UK.
However, even at that it is a massive outlay.
So, anonymous poll, although SWIM anecdotes and general advice also well welcomed, has anyone "invested in themselves" and seen results?
nb: In the poll, "I" can be close family member as well. ____________________ Top cat
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I got pretty desperate and actually considered paying for it, but in the end I managed to self-refer through MIND.
It was some of the outfall from the Jen v Mum debacle
I'd brought the subject up with several mates (as Motorhate says), but in fact, I used to get myself so worked up that I didn't want to upset or stress my friends out any more, having them see me getting that tearful and hysterical every time the subject came up.
At first I didn't think it was helping. Every week I went, and I chatted about what seemed pointless shit or rehashing of my life, to a guy who barely said anything other than recall what I had previously said.
But things started to dawn on me, once I talked stuff round myself in circles. So yeah, it did help.
Mind you, the second to last session (I had 8 sessions) was just before I did that epic fly/ride thing with the GSX back from Milan, which certainly blew away a few cobwebs and gave me time to think.
But I had already recognised (to myself) that I had worked some issues through just by talking to the therapist about them.
I'd try to talk stuff through again, before resorting to medication.
(also I have less mates now than I did back then )
But I'm glad I didnt have to pay for it.
I was close to doing so, as I could afford it back then, and I was desperate to talk to a professional. ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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You need to talk to someone who doesn't care about your feels or about calling out any "yeahbut..." self deception.
Call into Stefan Molyneux, tell him you've bought your 3rd world 'girlfriend' a cow.
Kind of srs point there, actually. If a totally unqualified borderline-swivel-eyed-loon chat show host can cut through 99 layers of self deceptive bullshit and get callers to identify, acknowledge and face their major malfunction in around an hour, using audio only, what the chuff are professionals doing taking longer than that?
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Posted: 11:35 - 23 Mar 2017 Post subject: Re: Therapy "Bang for buck" |
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Sun Wukong wrote: | Final rate $250 per session... or $125 for 30 minute sessions.
Looking around the UK, prices are 40-80 GBP per hour, so clearly better value in the UK. |
Wow, just wow. Can't you start a blog/vlog instead? What do these people do, that you pay them this much? You know what, I bet there's someone on the BCF that lives close by, pay him/her 25 GBP per hour to sit with you in your local pub and listen to your stories and issues. Or join a church, you can talk to them for free, as far as I understand the concept of being involved.
If you're suicidal (see the carbon monoxide thread for pointers) then you need a psychiatrist and not a the-rapist anyway. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Rogerborg wrote: | You need to talk to someone who doesn't care about your feels or about calling out any "yeahbut..." self deception.
Call into Stefan Molyneux, tell him you've bought your 3rd world 'girlfriend' a cow.
Kind of srs point there, actually. If a totally unqualified borderline-swivel-eyed-loon chat show host can cut through 99 layers of self deceptive bullshit and get callers to identify, acknowledge and face their major malfunction in around an hour, using audio only, what the chuff are professionals doing taking longer than that?
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The "I'm dating/married to a prostitute in Thai/Cambodia/Laos and I can't tell if she is milking me for my money. She is 40 years younger than me, and spends a lot of time with her "brother" when I'm gone" story.
Haha
I swear living in those places for a few years gave me more trust issues than any of the other years of excitement around westerners. Interesting place
You all have very good points, and I sniff "snake oil sale" well in this. I have done jolly well on my own over the last couple of years to improve, and have been going from strength to strength.
Still some kind of confident quack to actually take some leadership would be good.
However, looking at the goals I want to achieve in the future, dropping 800-1500 quid on this would seem far less sensible than just collaring someone down the pub.
Maybe that should be my plan. Find pub barfly that requires pints of fosters, chat shit to them, for about 4 quid an hour.
BCF strikes gold again. ____________________ Top cat
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Tracey Suntan-King wrote: | Alternative,... |
So, if OP found a hobby, to fill his time with something constructive instead of thinking about whatever bothers him, he'd be alright on his own, completely free of charge? ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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RhynoCZ wrote: | Tracey Suntan-King wrote: | Alternative,... |
So, if OP found a hobby, to fill his time with something constructive instead of thinking about whatever bothers him, he'd be alright on his own, completely free of charge? |
Ride your bike, problem solved
No bike? You need the two-step program:
1. Get a bike
2. Ride your bike
Problem solved ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I have done alot of therapy, alot!. On the NHS and private, private is better because the NHS provides less than adequate therapists/ psychs 90% only care about being there for the paycheck.
Privately, the most I had spent per session was £160 an hr which was ok but really not enough changes to see for the price paid, more about therapist opinion than anything else, i think you , you do it because ... and almost all the time wrong. Avg payment for me is 40-60 per hr, but you really have to look for the right person you can really get along with, non opinionated with the experience in what you want, i.e anxiety, depression etc. My therapist now is great, looks like richard o brian, not opinionated.
In line with others though , best therapy IMO is music in my case metal and your bike at speed - or if fan of road rash listen to the rusty cage sound track with the sfx and ride! ____________________ Need more bikes! |
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Sun Wukong wrote: | I have done jolly well on my own over the last couple of years to improve, and have been going from strength to strength.
Still some kind of confident quack to actually take some leadership would be good. |
I'm probably missing something here (nothing new ), but if that's the case, why does this thread even exist? Why would some kind of quack be good?
It doesn't seem to me that you have any major problems, except perhaps too much time spent thinking too deeply. I get like that sometimes, but as soon as I get active again, I see that inactivity and pondering too much were the problems (winter in particular is a bugger for me). Crack on with living, instead of wondering about all this stuff that clogs you up and slows you down.
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Sun Wukong wrote: | aybe that should be my plan. Find pub barfly that requires pints of fosters |
Anybody who is profiting in an ongoing fashion from your woes in any way will be incentivised to prolong them.
As for non-opinionated, why would you take advice from someone who lacks, or pretends to lack, an opinion of their own? You might as well use Eliza.
Find someone who doesn't give a toss about your feelings, has no incentive to drag out the process, and who will listen hard and then tell you what you don't want to hear rather than nodding along.
Call in to Molyneux.
Why wouldn't you? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Sun Wukong wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
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I dunno mate, I need to get dressed to go shopping. This is a big undertaking!
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Ah bugger, something else I'm now going to have to binge-watch
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Ah bugger, something else I'm now going to have to binge-watch
That is hilarious. |
Eh, he's patchy. The political polemics get very samey, as do the echo chambers with fellow right-wingers.
The call ins though can be solid gold. Sometimes if you listen really closely, you can hear a ringing sound when the penny drops.
He comes across as a bit of a nobber, and probably is, but generally listens carefully to exactly what people are saying (which they often seem unaware of themselves), processes it, then drills straight to the core of an issue rather than mincing around it. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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did a counselling training course a few years ago by accident (had to give someone a lift to it and pick them up after every week - same time driving as the course took so signed up for it to save the petrol)
It was surprisingly interesting and there is definitely an advantage to not giving a shit about the person being counselled. Apply the techniques, get the results, don't get dragged in personally. Switch off, go home.
An added benefit is that if you go over to the "dark side", you can use the same techniques to really piss people off in a way that leaves them uncertain why they are so pissed off
Very high proportion of the people there had previously undergone counselling then wanted to become the person that had previously counselled them.
...and now you have read this, how did that make you feel? ____________________ Old fart
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 35 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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