Therapy "Bang for buck"

[Sun Wukong]

So, leaving aside Auntie NHS ponying up for you...

Therapy...

Does it do much more than spending the same amount of money on a nice holiday or whores... ?

I have some () issues that I wouldn't mind working through, and every now and then I look in to it.

I had a lovely meeting with a yank shrink today. Final rate $250 per session... or $125 for 30 minute sessions.



Looking around the UK, prices are 40-80 GBP per hour, so clearly better value in the UK.

However, even at that it is a massive outlay.

So, anonymous poll, although SWIM anecdotes and general advice also well welcomed, has anyone "invested in themselves" and seen results?

nb: In the poll, "I" can be close family member as well.
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[Motorhate]

In the words of Crocodile Dundee ...

Sue Charlton: People go to a psychiatrist to talk about their problems. She just needed to unload them. You know, bring them out in the open.

Michael J. "Crocodile" Dundee: Hasn't she got any mates?
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[hellkat]

I got pretty desperate and actually considered paying for it, but in the end I managed to self-refer through MIND.

It was some of the outfall from the Jen v Mum debacle

I'd brought the subject up with several mates (as Motorhate says), but in fact, I used to get myself so worked up that I didn't want to upset or stress my friends out any more, having them see me getting that tearful and hysterical every time the subject came up.

At first I didn't think it was helping. Every week I went, and I chatted about what seemed pointless shit or rehashing of my life, to a guy who barely said anything other than recall what I had previously said.

But things started to dawn on me, once I talked stuff round myself in circles. So yeah, it did help.

Mind you, the second to last session (I had 8 sessions) was just before I did that epic fly/ride thing with the GSX back from Milan, which certainly blew away a few cobwebs and gave me time to think.

But I had already recognised (to myself) that I had worked some issues through just by talking to the therapist about them.

I'd try to talk stuff through again, before resorting to medication.
(also I have less mates now than I did back then )

But I'm glad I didnt have to pay for it.
I was close to doing so, as I could afford it back then, and I was desperate to talk to a professional.
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[Sun Wukong]

[Rogerborg]

You need to talk to someone who doesn't care about your feels or about calling out any "yeahbut..." self deception.

Call into Stefan Molyneux, tell him you've bought your 3rd world 'girlfriend' a cow.

Kind of srs point there, actually. If a totally unqualified borderline-swivel-eyed-loon chat show host can cut through 99 layers of self deceptive bullshit and get callers to identify, acknowledge and face their major malfunction in around an hour, using audio only, what the chuff are professionals doing taking longer than that?

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[Kickstart]

Hi

Been through it once and going through it again for different things.

Not 100% sure it helped and wasn't just time that helped. But there are things that you might want to try and bounce off someone who you do not know and are never likely to see in a social situation.

All the best

Katy
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[RhynoCZ]

[Tracey Suntan-King]

I've never really related to talking therapy. It's a great money spinner for the therapists though because it can be open-ended:D

Both personally and professionally I have more faith in constructive intervention where a qualified, trained expert takes you through various appropriate exercises to assist you in finding practical, personal solutions to the issues you wish to resolve.

My preferred discipline is Neuro Linguistic Programming, I'm a qualified practitioner.

NLP encompasses a range of techniques and strategies to move you away from unwanted thoughts and behaviours and teaches you strategies for managing challenges, both conscious and non-conscious as they arise.

My personal opinion is that NLP is a more appropriate discipline for helping people than simple talking. In fact NLP theory suggests that "talking therapies" have a negative effect because constantly revisiting and articulating trauma or distress actually embeds those feelings and behaviors rather than resolving them and moving on.

An NLP practitioner will charge you similar rates to a counsellor/therapist per session but will provide you with time-bound, workable techniques that you can use on your own, forever.
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[Sun Wukong]

[RhynoCZ]

[Sun Wukong]

[chickenstrip]

[Sun Wukong]

[Poecilotheria]

I have done alot of therapy, alot!. On the NHS and private, private is better because the NHS provides less than adequate therapists/ psychs 90% only care about being there for the paycheck.

Privately, the most I had spent per session was £160 an hr which was ok but really not enough changes to see for the price paid, more about therapist opinion than anything else, i think you , you do it because ... and almost all the time wrong. Avg payment for me is 40-60 per hr, but you really have to look for the right person you can really get along with, non opinionated with the experience in what you want, i.e anxiety, depression etc. My therapist now is great, looks like richard o brian, not opinionated.

In line with others though , best therapy IMO is music in my case metal and your bike at speed - or if fan of road rash listen to the rusty cage sound track with the sfx and ride!
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[Rogerborg]

[Sun Wukong]

[Rogerborg]

[garth]

I went to see a reflexologist once. The one that plays with your feet?

She told me I was bitter and full of resentment. I didn't go back. Anyway what kind of person wants to play with feet all day? Like footjobs, dont get that at all.
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[chickenstrip]

[hellkat]

[Rogerborg]

[ScaredyCat]

If you need therapy then find a stranger and get shitfaced with them. When they start bawwing about how shitty their life is you'll realise that you're doing OK.

Lots of money spent, drink drunk, food eaten and your problem solved for a ~£200 one off fee. For additional therapy remind yourself how the other person must feel about some stranger knowing how shitty they're doing. Feel smug. Strut. Wear sunscreen..
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[Baggyman]

did a counselling training course a few years ago by accident (had to give someone a lift to it and pick them up after every week - same time driving as the course took so signed up for it to save the petrol)

It was surprisingly interesting and there is definitely an advantage to not giving a shit about the person being counselled. Apply the techniques, get the results, don't get dragged in personally. Switch off, go home.

An added benefit is that if you go over to the "dark side", you can use the same techniques to really piss people off in a way that leaves them uncertain why they are so pissed off


Very high proportion of the people there had previously undergone counselling then wanted to become the person that had previously counselled them.

...and now you have read this, how did that make you feel?
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[UnknownStuntm...]

There's a great deal of halfwittery in this thread.

If you think you need therapy, you probably do. Most people only consider it after something (or someone) tells them to consider it.

NHS are in cost saving mode, don't expect them to do much for you. And certainly not to timescales if you're under pressure to get sorted.

Get online, read some local practitioners' profiles and read what they specialise in and how they fix things in their field of experience.

Don't think you'll fix things alone. Taking care of your own mental health attracts enough of a stigma already, 'the usual BCF treatment' as in many posts above indicate to me that there are still enough people taking the piss to make you feel stupid. Don't.