Therapy "Bang for buck"

Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

£250/hr is exorbitant. My PTSD therapy was £125/hr and worth every penny, especially since they weren't my pennies.

My guy was not a money-grabber who deliberately prolonged the work, he was a thoroughly decent guy who told me right from the off that he would make a huge difference to my life inside of 10 hrs work and he was true to his word. I'd recommend him to anyone but he only does PTSD.
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My point was more about sex tourists than those who cater to them, but you keep on tilting at those windmills, bruv.
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Falco · Traffic Copper Joined: 27 Nov 2015 Karma :

Plenty of good advice here, but I'll add to the point that it all hinges on the therapist (and the quality thereof).

Had 2 sets a couple of years ago, 1st was just "talking therapy", total trash, 2nd was CBT but with difficult (for me) tasks to do between sessions and plenty of guided self analysis. It was a big help, but fairly random that I got a good one the 2nd time around.

Friends aren't therapists, a certain amount of whinging is just part of human interaction but don't over do it and ruin a perfectly good friendship.
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hellkat · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

It *is* a very good question, and although it does seem personal and difficult, I reckon it's not a bad indicator as to whether or not the "therapy" has helped/is helping.

For my part, I had become so fucked up about the relationship that had developed between myself and my mother, that I had googled "matricide" and started to look up cases online of children who had killed their mother - and making judgments on their justifications for it Shocked

So when I mentioned that to the MIND people, it seems that was the point at which their triage process cranked up a notch or two ... Shifty

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Ribenapigeon · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Karma :

For the normal neurotic type, which is frankly most people. Self help books are just as effective over all as paying out to see a councilor/psychotherapist/psychiatrist. You just have to be prepared to follow the program. As for counciling you might find your employer may fork out for it as part of any employee assistance program. If you are needing something more intensive then thats an NHS matter.

The problem is with more and more publicity around mental health the whole system is bunged up with people getting referred from GPs who probably would be best picking up a book. The so called "worried well", thiz annoys me greatly as charity contractors line up to take on these clients as theyre easy going and dont need much real resources to pump through the charities system. Thus leaving the genuinely seriouslt afflicted living in institutions rather than being reabilutated and supported to live in the community.

Sun Wukong · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Nov 2014 Karma :

Wow, since I last checked it FOUR people have chosen the first option.

Big change Thumbs Up

Well, I learnt new words today. Captious... Keen to pettifog

My big issue is I see the worst in everything. People, places, jobs, cultures, languages.

I can force myself to see the good, I can consciously remember it. Yet the flaws just leap out at me. It's like a superpower.

It's great when dealing with genuine problems and issues, not so great when you start discovering problems (that others don't see at all).

I can learn not to gossip, whinge, rant or generally be a dick about things... and I've had a lot of success. Spotting glaring holes in plans or strategies is not such a bad thing at all, it is very handy, and can be great.

But slowly finding all the petty problems in an otherwise good thing is career suicide and a recipe for sadness.

So, I would like to stop this.

Recommend me a self help shyster.

I'll save my therapy bucks for whinging about how my Daddy wasn't quite perfect enough Laughing

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Ribenapigeon · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Karma :

There's a CBT for dummies book you could try.

pudder · Scooby Slapper Joined: 04 Nov 2016 Karma :

Without going into detail, my wife had/has a quite specific anxiety which had got to the point where it was impacting on day-to-day life.
Preventing her from going out, being unable to see friends/family, causing panic attacks.

I encouraged her to sign up for an evening CBT course run by local NHS, was around 8-10 sessions. I offered to go with her if she wanted and I was allowed, and suprisingly there were free spaces.

First few weeks seemed like a lot of emphasis on how anxiety works, what it looks like, symptoms etc. Second half was more 'tools' to use to try and minimise occurances of anxiety, or to recognise when it is happening and apply in the moment to reassure yourself.
It was all quite interesting, and stuff I hadn't really ever thought of before, but as it was a group session there was rarely any discussion of specific problems. It was always hypothetical situations.

She then started going to individual counselling, where she talked through the specifics of her anxiety, and past trauma events.

She is far less anxious these days, but I wonder how much of that is directly attributable to the courses.
We've stopped doing the excercises and she no longer goes to counselling.
Glad we did it, but had we been paying for it I don't think we would necessarily have seen massive value for money.
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Alpineandy · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Mar 2015 Karma :

Often just saying stuff out loud to an independent unconnected person gives a certain clarity to the situation and allows you to sort your own issues, however that does rather depend on how screwed up you really are.
I'd guess many on here are way past being helped... I probably am...

If it's a small issue then you may find a counsellor is a worthwhile and cheaper option...
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subpardave · Derestricted Danger Joined: 18 Jan 2017 Karma :

I voted for the Major positive on the poll. Therapy helped me realise I was in an abusive relationship and to understand what it has done to my sense of self.

It may sound strange, but talking therapy has helped me hugely with anxiety and depression related to the above.
A good therapist however is the key - and this is a very variable area!