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TheShaggyDA
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 02 Sep 2004    Post subject: "Universal" Spanners Reply with quote

Many moons ago, I saw some spanners advertised, that had a different profile so that they would grip on the flat rather than on the edge of the nut/bolt. Beauty of these was that one spanner would fit a range of sizes.

I can't remember for the life of me where I saw them, who makes them, or even what type they are called. Been googling for a few hours but keep drawing up blanks.

I've drawn (rather badly) what I recall the head to look like - probably the second one with a half hex head, rather than the half square of the first.

Any hints/ideas what these are, who makes them or what they are called?
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 02 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet they're made of chocolate as well.
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 02 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as it's not that Belgian crap, I don't mind.
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 02 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sod's Law, 48b :-

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When you give up and make a post asking for something, you'll find the item you are looking for within 5 minutes.



Found them, they are called "METRINCH".

https://www.metrinch-tools.com/
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 06 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

False economy, they don't fit AF or Metric well & are the worst of both worlds...
Never buy cheap tools & especially ones that claim to *fit everything*. Go buy some Britool or Facom spanners, they'l last you a lifetime.
hell, I even have some 25 year old Kamasa sockets that are still holding up well, altho they ain't the first ones I grab when I reach into the toolbox
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 06 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get other 'wall drive' sockets and spanners that do a similar thing.
I definitely reccomend them, though others are a bit more cynical about their merits.


However I would definitely avoid ones offering to do imperial and metric. To start with, how much imperial stuff do you use? Not many people do touch it these days.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 06 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I have one or 2 wall drive sockets, but they are all metric rather than the dodgy "one size fits all" ones.

General use they have no real advantage. They are possibly marginally better on a rounded nut, but then that is just likely to encourage people to reuse nuts and bolts that should be in the bin.

All the best

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PostPosted: 19:14 - 06 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too true Keith. How can we ever forget the old classic 'half inch spanner on a 12mm nut' scenario Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 06 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scooby wrote:
Too true Keith. How can we ever forget the old classic 'half inch spanner on a 12mm nut' scenario Laughing


Or the 9/16 --> 14mm even tho there is a 0.3mm difference...
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 06 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a whitworth set of King Dicks...but I aint bragging or anything Very Happy

Me Grandad give 'em to me when I was just a lad. Smile

I am by trade a truck mechanic and the rest of the guys in our workshop spend truck loads (no pun intended) of cash on tools whereas I just bought cheapy stuff like Draper and other makes and they done just as good as stuff like Snap-on and Mac,ok so I broke a few sockets and that but as they were only cheap who cares?!
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 06 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus, if you lose a socket it ain`t going to cost you fifteen quid for a new one!

I do a fair amount of roadside stuff, where it's so easy to lose stuff, Halfords professional does it for me - not cheap but not an arm or a leg job either!
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 06 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheShaggyDA wrote:
Sod's Law, 48b :-

Found them, they are called "METRINCH".

https://www.metrinch-tools.com/


Wotcha.

I have a few 'Metrinch' spanners in the garage - and they can be worth their weight in gold sometimes. The only snag I've found with 'em is the amount of 'swing' you need. If you are trying to undo something in a restricted space, then don't use 'Metrinch'.

Keep an eye out for 'Supawrench' - which is a cross beteween a Stillson type spanner and 'normal' spanner. They will grip rounded off nuts far better than Mole grips ever will.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 06 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ade067 wrote:


I am by trade a truck mechanic and the rest of the guys in our workshop spend truck loads (no pun intended) of cash on tools whereas I just bought cheapy stuff like Draper and other makes and they done just as good as stuff like Snap-on and Mac,ok so I broke a few sockets and that but as they were only cheap who cares?!


Its O.k when you can borrow another piece of kit but if you are at home with the wheel off your bike and you break a cheap socket its gonna be a long walk for a new one. I always buy the best I can and the ones that are guaranteed for life saves a lot of hassle.

I use Impact sockets* as they grip all the walls and with a ratchet you will break the bolt before the socket breaks. Hence a torque wrench is also a must. Wink

*(they also undo most nuts that have been rounded off with suprising ease)
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 06 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buying good quality tools is an investment, if you are going to be spannering for a long time to come they will pay off in the end.

I *inherited* all my dads old tools, they are 30 years old but the spanners, sockets and ratchets are still going strong even after heavy use, I just bought a 19pc metric spanner set (britool) for £55 with free delivery (reduced from £140) to add to the collection, bargain Wink.

Some brands of tools are hideously over priced though.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 06 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

face drive sockets are excellent. I have metric ones from Sykes Pickavant and they have removed turbo manifold nuts that a normal spanner or 12 point socket would touch.
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 06 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ade067 wrote:
I got a whitworth set of King Dicks...but I aint bragging or anything Very Happy

Me Grandad give 'em to me when I was just a lad. Smile


Lucky swine. Getting hold of Whitworth stuff is difficult these days and it took me a while to find some (needed for an old bike).

Ade067 wrote:
ok so I broke a few sockets and that but as they were only cheap who cares?!


Trouble is that the tools have a good chance of wrecking the fastener when they break, and if you are unlucky then say goodbye to your knuckles at the same time.

Most of the decent spanners I have are Facom ones (started out buying them when Halfords had a clearance). They are quite good. Really need to buy some decent sockets some time, but the ones I have at the moment are not had and a normal hex ones.

All the best

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PostPosted: 00:09 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Lucky swine. Getting hold of Whitworth stuff is difficult these days and it took me a while to find some (needed for an old bike)


I didn't realise that, I've got quite a few bits of Whitworth sitting in the garage, TBH I was going to ditch it! I might have another look to see what I've got.
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PostPosted: 01:34 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Getting hold of decent quality WW stuff these days is not easy. Think King Dick are just about the only people who still make it.

All the best

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PostPosted: 05:17 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snap-On still make Whit wrenches & sockets. I've got a set of their Whit sockets. The Whit wrenches I have are Draper, Britool & KD.
Also got a load of BA for the small stuff, comes in handy working on Spits, Hurricanes & P51's etc Smile
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
Snap-On still make Whit wrenches & sockets. I've got a set of their Whit sockets.


Thanks. Useful to know. Seen loads of AF but very few WW.

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:23 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good quality (Britool, King Dick) Whitworth stuff is often available for very little at car boot sales, but A/F stuff will fit on Whitworth anyway.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't the cheap Universal JML spanners any good? I know they're cheap and nasty but they're supposed to be great at gripping rounded nuts.

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PostPosted: 23:00 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get an adjustable! Laughing

Bought myself a set of cheap spanners about 3 years ago have snapped 2 so far and replaced them with decent ones as they ar ones I use often.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone remember, or own, a Gator Grip?? That all-round universal one-size-fits-all miracle wrench & sprocket which had 50 odd pins to grip nuts & bolts with? I seem to remember it was a Yank tool (no offence Smile ), advertised on the cheap in an over-the-top ad "for a limited time only".

I bet it was made of Brie, or a similar soft cheese.
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 07 Sep 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Pete wrote:
but A/F stuff will fit on Whitworth anyway.
No it won't.
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