CBT For car drivers

[AndyCF]

1. You can't have any lessons outside of an approved trained driving instructor until you have passed a CBT course (a couple of hours training with an approved instructor) to validate your provisional car licence.

2. If you do not pass your full test within two years your car CBT is invalid and you must retake it to be allowed to have 'private' lessons (such as those given by friends/relatives, anyone not an approved qualified instructor)

3. Upon jumping though some red tape and passing said driving test (eventually) , well done. Now if you may not:

Drive or operate a vehicle that is over either 1200cc or 75bhp

At the age of 24 or after 2 years you may elect to fill the DSA coffers a bit more and take another test to have your licence capacity increased to allow you to drive a car/ light van with any engine size. If you do not do this you will be limited to 1200cc/75hp forever.

If you passed your test when you were aged 24 years or older, your restriction only lasts two years then you may drive whatever engine size you like.


I realise that's a trimmed and slightly less restrictive version of what we have, but I don't think they would stand for it if said "tables were turned" here...

[M.C]

So after you pass your car CBT you get to drive around on your own?

[AndyCF]

[M.C]

So we have it pretty good then Motorcycle training's backwards IMO, you need longer CBT and less BS when it comes to taking your test. The pre-2013 rules were fine IMO.

I'd like to see different classes with cars, over 2 tonnes needing a different license so we can get a lot of the vans and 4x4's off the road.

Power I don't really care about, insurance restricts most people in that regards... another issue we don't have with bikes

[Ste]

More pointless bureaucracy.... just what we need.

[Pjay]

Link?
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[AndyCF]

Its purely a 'tongue in cheek / hypothetical' thing. I'm sorry if anyone assumed it was real. Was not my intention.

[M.C]

On the news they had something about introducing a sat nav element to the driving test Seems to be all gimmicks rather than an effort to improve the standard of driving.

Personally I wouldn't have a problem having a retest every 10 years. You'd get rid of people who's standards have slipped or those who scraped through to begin with.

[AndyCF]

[Pjay]

[dydey90]

[Andy_Pagin]

There's no point in CBT for cars 'cos you can't drive solo without a full licence. Power restrictions are pointless since power isn't a significant factor in most new driver accidents, and last and by no means least insurance is a massive limiting factor. Fancy four grand a year to insure a YBR125? Thought not.
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[M.C]

[Robby]

I recognise that my experience is about 15 years out of date, but I was under the impression that bikers still get a much easier ride than car drivers.

To get into a car at 17, I would need to:
- Do about 20 hours of lessons with an instructor. I could be taught a bit on the side by someone else, but not to test standard. I think I did about 20 lessons back in 2002.
- Do my theory, do my test.
- Buy a small car
- Pay approx £4k/year for insurance on said small car for 3 years or so.

Meanwhile, to get on a bike at 17:
- Do CBT
- Spend less on everything
- Ride
- Do additional tests when I'm older to ride something bigger.

There are edge cases. There's always someone who gets a brand new Impreza (or current fast car of your choosing) for their 17th birthday and their parents pay for everything, but these cases are rare. I suspect there are more cases of baaklaffers riding an R6 with the number plate from a YBR125 on it.

And don't start suggesting everyone should take their test every 10 years. It's bad enough giving DVSA examiners the power to irritate children, imagine if they could take away licences from real people.

[Derivative]

I really can't see how the CBT is long for this earth.

On rural roads, sure, big bikes are dangerous and fast and that and you might die on a corner and stuff.

In the vast majority of actual use in cities, what's the difference between a CBF125 and an S1000RR? You're getting taken out when you filter or at a junction.

Consider cars. Is a performance car actually more dangerous than a Fiat 500? I reckon it's more down to the groups of people that would actually buy and use the cars. If you rag a shitbox and take corners at silly speeds you're in the shit regardless.

[Pjay]

[M.C]

[mentalboy]

Better still, make every able bodied person ride a 125 (after doing a CBT) for a year before letting them near a car.

EDIT: ...ensuring that they rack up x amount of road hours on the bike. They could be chipped and the bike have a 'black box' to ensure no cheating.
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[notbike]

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[M.C]

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