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Nojalllen
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 16 Apr 2017    Post subject: 2008 fz6 s2 imobiliser Reply with quote

Does anyone know is there a diagnostic mode on a fazer s2 2008 or is the fault codes only accessible via a diagnostic machine ?
The bike currently won't start the imobiliser light is flashing and the temp is flashing high. Any assistance would be appreciated.
Thanks Jon
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 17 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi bud, I gonna put a tonne of info in here. Will look like a lot but it's just to be comprehensive. I'll explain in shirt at the end.

To enter diagnostics mode, you have to press and hold SELECT + RESET, then turn the key and keep them pressed for 8 more seconds.

It'll appear dIAg on the display, you can release them now. Afterwards use select to read the various codes.

The codes you see at the bottom refer to settings. These are as follows.

01 : Throttle position - must be from 15-17 (closed) to 97-100 (opened)
02 : Atmospheric pressure given in mmHg (normal is 760 - average weather)
03 : Differential pressure between air and intake pipe
05 : Air intake temperature (in Celcius)
06 : Cooling liquid temperature (in Celcius)
07 : Absolute speed (must be 000 in garage). Check with rear weel.
08 : Lean angle safety switch control - must be from 0.4-1.4 (upright) to 3.8-4.2 (horizontal). DISMOUT THE SWITCH FOR CHECKING !!!
09 : Battery voltage - must be above 12.0
20 : Side stand switch - displays ON or OFF
21 : Neutral gear switch - displays ON or OFF

Part II : ECU memory check.

60 : EEPROM error code presence - 00 means no default, 01 or 02 means default on corresponding cylinder (blinks if both cylinders).
61 : Error Code memory log - Displays 00 if no error code in memory, displays the Error Code if any (11 to 50). Display changes every two seconds if more than one Error Code in memory, then start again from first.
62 : Displays the number of Error Code in memory. To clear the memory, switch the Engine Run Switch to ON position (no backup).
70 : Check Code number, display from 0 to 255

Part III : Activators - To activate, turn Engine Run switch from OFF to ON - Engine check light is activated too.

30 : Coil 1 is activated 5 times per second.
31 : Coil 2 is activated 5 times per second.
36 : Injector 1 solenoid is activated 5 times per second.
37 : Injector 2 solenoid is activated 5 times per second.
48 : Air duct solenoid is activated 5 times per second.
49 : Air intake solenoid is activated 5 times per second.
50 : Fuel injection relay is activated 5 times per second.
51 : Cooler fan is activated every 5 seconds.
52 : Headlight relay is activated every 5 seconds (2 seconds ON, 3 seconds OFF) - 2003+ model only.

You want 61 as that shows error codes. They will cycle round if more than 1. You can clear these codes by switching the kill switch on and off.

The error codes displayed are as follows:

Fault Code: 12
Diagnostic Code: --
Symptom: No normal signals are received from the crankshaft position sensor.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective crankshaft position sensor.
Malfunction in pickup rotor.
Malfunction in ECU.
Improperly installed sensor.

Fault Code: 13
Diagnostic Code: 03
Symptom: Intake air pressure sensor-open or short circuit detected.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring sub lead.
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective intake air pressure sensor.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 14
Diagnostic Code: 03
Symptom: Faulty intake air pressure sensor pipe system
Probable cause of malfunction:
detected hose
clogged hose
Intake air pressure sensor hose is detached, clogged,
kinked, or pinched.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 15
Diagnostic Code: 01
Symptom: Throttle position sensor-open or short circuit detected.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring sub lead.
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective throttle position sensor.
Malfunction in ECU.
Improperly installed throttle position sensor.

Fault Code: 16
Diagnostic Code: 01
Symptom: A stuck throttle position sensor is detected.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Stuck throttle position sensor.
Malfunction in ECU. 01

Fault Code: 19
Diagnostic Code: 20
Symptom: Open circuit in the input line of ECU No4 terminal is detected when the start switch is pressed.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open circuit in wiring harness (ECU coupler).
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 21
Diagnostic Code: 06
Symptom: Coolant temperature sensor-open or short circuit detected.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective coolant temperature sensor.
Malfunction in ECU.
Improperly installed sensor.

Fault Code: 22
Diagnostic Code: 05
Symptom: Intake air temperature sensor-open or short circuit detected.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective intake temperature sensor.
Malfunction in ECU.
Improperly installed sensor.

Fault Code: 30
Diagnostic Code: 08
Symptom: The motorcycle has overturned.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Overturned.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 33
Diagnostic Code: 30
Symptom: Open circuit is detected in the primary lead of the ignition coil (# 1, #4).
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open circuit in wiring harness.
Malfunction in ignition coil.
Malfunction in ECU.
Malfunction in a component of ignition cut-off circuit system.

Fault Code: 34
Diagnostic Code: 31
Symptom: Open circuit is detected in the primary lead of the ignition coil (# 2, #3).
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open circuit in wiring harness.
Malfunction in ignition coil.
Malfunction in ECU.
Malfunction in a component of ignition cut-off circuit system.

Fault Code: 41
Diagnostic Code: 08
Symptom: Lean angle cut-off switch-open or short circuit detected.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective lean angle cut-off switch.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 42
Diagnostic Code: 07, 21
Symptom: No normal signals are received from the speed sensor; or, an open or
short circuit is detected in the neutral switch.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective speed sensor.
Malfunction in vehicle speed sensor detected unit.
Defective neutral switch.
Malfunction in the engine side of the neutral switch.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 43
Diagnostic Code: 09
Symptom: Supply power to the injector and fuel pump is not normal
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open circuit in wiring harness. (red/blue line or blue/yellow line)
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 44
Diagnostic Code: 60
Symptom: An error is detected while reading or writing on EEPROM.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Malfunction in ECU. (The CO adjustment value is not properly written on or read from the internal memory).

Fault Code: 46
Diagnostic Code: --
Symptom: Power supply to the FI system is not normal.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Malfunction in "CHARGING SYSTEM".

Fault code: 50
Diagnostic Code: --
Symptom: Faulty ECU memory. When this malfunction is detected, the code
number might not appear on the meter.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Malfunction in ECU. (The program and data are not
properly written on or read from the internal memory.)

Fault code: Er-1
Diagnostic Code: --
Symptom: No signals are received from the ECU.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring sub lead.
Malfunction in meter.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault code: Er-2
Diagnostic Code: --
Symptom: No signals are received from the ECU within the specified duration.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Improper connection in wiring sub lead.
Malfunction in meter.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault code: Er-3
Diagnostic Code: --
Symptom: Data from the ECU cannot be received correctly.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Improper connection in wiring sub lead.
Malfunction in meter.
Malfunction in ECU.

Following ERROR codes DO NOT allow engine to run :
11-12-19-30-41-50 and Er-1 to Er-4
Error code 11 allow engine to continue running only if fault appears after engine start.

Following ERROR codes DO allow engine to run but need immediate check because default values are taken by the ECU: 13-14-20-21-22-23-24-24-42-43-44


So basically. Boot up in diagnostic mode, go straight to the error code section and look for codes. Then look up the error. From there you can see what it is and if I've listed a diagnostic code with it check out that the settings are correct for that code.

Good luck
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 17 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willy_westside wrote:
Hi bud, I gonna put a tonne of info in here. Will look like a lot but it's just to be comprehensive. I'll explain in shirt at the end.

To enter diagnostics mode, you have to press and hold SELECT + RESET, then turn the key and keep them pressed for 8 more seconds.

It'll appear dIAg on the display, you can release them now. Afterwards use select to read the various codes.

The codes you see at the bottom refer to settings. These are as follows.

01 : Throttle position - must be from 15-17 (closed) to 97-100 (opened)
02 : Atmospheric pressure given in mmHg (normal is 760 - average weather)
03 : Differential pressure between air and intake pipe
05 : Air intake temperature (in Celcius)
06 : Cooling liquid temperature (in Celcius)
07 : Absolute speed (must be 000 in garage). Check with rear weel.
08 : Lean angle safety switch control - must be from 0.4-1.4 (upright) to 3.8-4.2 (horizontal). DISMOUT THE SWITCH FOR CHECKING !!!
09 : Battery voltage - must be above 12.0
20 : Side stand switch - displays ON or OFF
21 : Neutral gear switch - displays ON or OFF

Part II : ECU memory check.

60 : EEPROM error code presence - 00 means no default, 01 or 02 means default on corresponding cylinder (blinks if both cylinders).
61 : Error Code memory log - Displays 00 if no error code in memory, displays the Error Code if any (11 to 50). Display changes every two seconds if more than one Error Code in memory, then start again from first.
62 : Displays the number of Error Code in memory. To clear the memory, switch the Engine Run Switch to ON position (no backup).
70 : Check Code number, display from 0 to 255

Part III : Activators - To activate, turn Engine Run switch from OFF to ON - Engine check light is activated too.

30 : Coil 1 is activated 5 times per second.
31 : Coil 2 is activated 5 times per second.
36 : Injector 1 solenoid is activated 5 times per second.
37 : Injector 2 solenoid is activated 5 times per second.
48 : Air duct solenoid is activated 5 times per second.
49 : Air intake solenoid is activated 5 times per second.
50 : Fuel injection relay is activated 5 times per second.
51 : Cooler fan is activated every 5 seconds.
52 : Headlight relay is activated every 5 seconds (2 seconds ON, 3 seconds OFF) - 2003+ model only.

You want 61 as that shows error codes. They will cycle round if more than 1. You can clear these codes by switching the kill switch on and off.

The error codes displayed are as follows:

Fault Code: 12
Diagnostic Code: --
Symptom: No normal signals are received from the crankshaft position sensor.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective crankshaft position sensor.
Malfunction in pickup rotor.
Malfunction in ECU.
Improperly installed sensor.

Fault Code: 13
Diagnostic Code: 03
Symptom: Intake air pressure sensor-open or short circuit detected.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring sub lead.
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective intake air pressure sensor.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 14
Diagnostic Code: 03
Symptom: Faulty intake air pressure sensor pipe system
Probable cause of malfunction:
detected hose
clogged hose
Intake air pressure sensor hose is detached, clogged,
kinked, or pinched.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 15
Diagnostic Code: 01
Symptom: Throttle position sensor-open or short circuit detected.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring sub lead.
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective throttle position sensor.
Malfunction in ECU.
Improperly installed throttle position sensor.

Fault Code: 16
Diagnostic Code: 01
Symptom: A stuck throttle position sensor is detected.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Stuck throttle position sensor.
Malfunction in ECU. 01

Fault Code: 19
Diagnostic Code: 20
Symptom: Open circuit in the input line of ECU No4 terminal is detected when the start switch is pressed.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open circuit in wiring harness (ECU coupler).
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 21
Diagnostic Code: 06
Symptom: Coolant temperature sensor-open or short circuit detected.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective coolant temperature sensor.
Malfunction in ECU.
Improperly installed sensor.

Fault Code: 22
Diagnostic Code: 05
Symptom: Intake air temperature sensor-open or short circuit detected.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective intake temperature sensor.
Malfunction in ECU.
Improperly installed sensor.

Fault Code: 30
Diagnostic Code: 08
Symptom: The motorcycle has overturned.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Overturned.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 33
Diagnostic Code: 30
Symptom: Open circuit is detected in the primary lead of the ignition coil (# 1, #4).
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open circuit in wiring harness.
Malfunction in ignition coil.
Malfunction in ECU.
Malfunction in a component of ignition cut-off circuit system.

Fault Code: 34
Diagnostic Code: 31
Symptom: Open circuit is detected in the primary lead of the ignition coil (# 2, #3).
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open circuit in wiring harness.
Malfunction in ignition coil.
Malfunction in ECU.
Malfunction in a component of ignition cut-off circuit system.

Fault Code: 41
Diagnostic Code: 08
Symptom: Lean angle cut-off switch-open or short circuit detected.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective lean angle cut-off switch.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 42
Diagnostic Code: 07, 21
Symptom: No normal signals are received from the speed sensor; or, an open or
short circuit is detected in the neutral switch.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring harness.
Defective speed sensor.
Malfunction in vehicle speed sensor detected unit.
Defective neutral switch.
Malfunction in the engine side of the neutral switch.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 43
Diagnostic Code: 09
Symptom: Supply power to the injector and fuel pump is not normal
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open circuit in wiring harness. (red/blue line or blue/yellow line)
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault Code: 44
Diagnostic Code: 60
Symptom: An error is detected while reading or writing on EEPROM.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Malfunction in ECU. (The CO adjustment value is not properly written on or read from the internal memory).

Thank you so much

Fault Code: 46
Diagnostic Code: --
Symptom: Power supply to the FI system is not normal.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Malfunction in "CHARGING SYSTEM".

Fault code: 50
Diagnostic Code: --
Symptom: Faulty ECU memory. When this malfunction is detected, the code
number might not appear on the meter.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Malfunction in ECU. (The program and data are not
properly written on or read from the internal memory.)

Fault code: Er-1
Diagnostic Code: --
Symptom: No signals are received from the ECU.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Open or short circuit in wiring sub lead.
Malfunction in meter.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault code: Er-2
Diagnostic Code: --
Symptom: No signals are received from the ECU within the specified duration.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Improper connection in wiring sub lead.
Malfunction in meter.
Malfunction in ECU.

Fault code: Er-3
Diagnostic Code: --
Symptom: Data from the ECU cannot be received correctly.
Probable cause of malfunction:
Improper connection in wiring sub lead.
Malfunction in meter.
Malfunction in ECU.

Following ERROR codes DO NOT allow engine to run :
11-12-19-30-41-50 and Er-1 to Er-4
Error code 11 allow engine to continue running only if fault appears after engine start.

Following ERROR codes DO allow engine to run but need immediate check because default values are taken by the ECU: 13-14-20-21-22-23-24-24-42-43-44


So basically. Boot up in diagnostic mode, go straight to the error code section and look for codes. Then look up the error. From there you can see what it is and if I've listed a diagnostic code with it check out that the settings are correct for that code.

Good luck



Thank you so much for all this brilliant info but the bike isn't allowing me to even access the diag mode so I'm wondering if that could be a faulty ecu straight away ??
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 17 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you say not allowing you to is it that the display is turning on as normal and not coming on in diag mode or is it not coming on at all?
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 17 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willy_westside wrote:
When you say not allowing you to is it that the display is turning on as normal and not coming on in diag mode or is it not coming on at all?


The display eliminates and goes throu it's test (lighting all the segments up) as normal then then everything's is lit up correctly apart from imobiliser/key light flashes and temp flashes 'HI' and the fuel pump does not purge. When going throu the sequence to go into diag mode nothing changes (doesn't select mode)
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 18 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've reached the limit of my knowledge here I'm afraid.
From what you're saying tho it does sound like a faulty ecu tho. Have you done anything to it for this to happen or has it just started on it's own?
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 18 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Willy_westside wrote:
We've reached the limit of my knowledge here I'm afraid.
From what you're saying tho it does sound like a faulty ecu tho. Have you done anything to it for this to happen or has it just started on it's own?

Yes I purchased a so called plug and play gear indicator. Plugged it in and this fault appeared. The bike has been put back to original state now but problem still persists.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 18 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no expert on this but sounds like your ecu may need resetting. Probably going to need someone who can plug into it and restore the factory defaults. You could try the old remove the battery for a few days then reconnect trick. See if that works. But other than that I don't know. Sounds like the gear indicator has buggered it up.
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