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Jewlio Rides Again LLB
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely a vote against would mean her position would be untenable, and we'd get rid of our very own Ms Adolf?

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PostPosted: 13:19 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Think I may have to see who the Conservative candidate is, or I'll slap an X in the green party or the liberals, to register my displeasure at the incompetents in charge.

Not voting sends a more powerful message.

SNP have very little to gain from another election, 3 seats max?
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...because it's free. It used to be entertaining to read years ago but it's a thoroughly dull paper now. I don't think anyone would part with actual money for it.


Your point being?

People don't pay to watch or read adverts in public either but they're still put under our noses every day for a reason.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
Think I may have to see who the Conservative candidate is, or I'll slap an X in the green party or the liberals, to register my displeasure at the incompetents in charge.

Not voting sends a more powerful message.

SNP have very little to gain from another election, 3 seats max?


Yep, because look how well voter apathy has worked in the past.

IDGAF about Norf of the border. Nor the Sheep botherers. My interest is my local area, which is how folk should actually vote, rather than what their great great great grandmothers grandfathers whippet voted. If folk could do that and distinguish between council elections and Parliamentary elections, we wouldn't have a bunch of cvnts in the town hall under a red rosette with a mandate more Tory than the Tories.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
Your point being?

People don't pay to watch or read adverts in public either but they're still put under our noses every day for a reason.

Err... its circulation's so high because it's free? It's not like the mail or the guardian where the audience's a certain type of person (mpd or Jewlio), and they have a distinct political bias. The standard's the journalistic equivalent of celery.

Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
Yep, because look how well voter apathy has worked in the past.

IDGAF about Norf of the border. Nor the Sheep botherers. My interest is my local area, which is how folk should actually vote, rather than what their great great great grandmothers grandfathers whippet voted. If folk could do that and distinguish between council elections and Parliamentary elections, we wouldn't have a bunch of cvnts in the town hall under a red rosette with a mandate more Tory than the Tories.

We only have this token democracy because people accept all the inequality (god I'm sounding like Corbyn) on a daily basis, then run to the polls like mongs thinking their opinion actually matters.

I live in a safe labour seat so there's no point in voting, I only registered to vote in the referendum because my vote actually mattered.
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Lord Percy wrote:
Your point being?

People don't pay to watch or read adverts in public either but they're still put under our noses every day for a reason.

Err... its circulation's so high because it's free? It's not like the mail or the guardian where the audience's a certain type of person (mpd or Jewlio), and they have a distinct political bias. The standard's the journalistic equivalent of celery.

Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
Yep, because look how well voter apathy has worked in the past.

IDGAF about Norf of the border. Nor the Sheep botherers. My interest is my local area, which is how folk should actually vote, rather than what their great great great grandmothers grandfathers whippet voted. If folk could do that and distinguish between council elections and Parliamentary elections, we wouldn't have a bunch of cvnts in the town hall under a red rosette with a mandate more Tory than the Tories.

We only have this token democracy because people accept all the inequality (god I'm sounding like Corbyn) on a daily basis, then run to the polls like mongs thinking their opinion actually matters.

I live in a safe labour seat so there's no point in voting, I only registered to vote in the referendum because my vote actually mattered.


As do I, but I'll still stick my X in a box just to tie up someone for a few seconds longer. Plus when they look at who voted how, they may get an idea they're not liked.

Or they'll just carry on not giving a fuck, and dabbing the tears with the £££ notes.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The system's unfair, by taking part you support the system. The most you can achieve is helping the monster raving loony party get their deposit back.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
What happens to Brexit? Can it be sabotaged, stopped, severely watered down?


Yes.

Pulls out firelighters and starts singing...

"We didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning" doo-doo-doo-dee doo-doo..


Not voting is a mistake IMO, unless nobody votes.

The choice is fairly clear:

You vote for her is you want it hard.
You vote libdem if you want it floppy.
You vote labour if you want Corbyn to flounce about some more doing nothing for longer.

UKIP aren't relevant any more, their votes will go conservative.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
The standard's the journalistic equivalent of celery.


I wouldn't count on that with Osborne pulling the strings.

Imagine for a second you were a person with an active or very recent role in the politics of your country. Imagine then that you were given editorial control of a publication with nearly a million copies being dumped all over your country's capital city. What a boon!

Subliminal state propaganda machine, it could well easily become.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'll see. I get the feeling he's more butthurt over May pissing on his political ambitions. Expect a few bitter headlines Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonder if there will be more televised debates? i.e. everyone clapping the Scottish Racialists when only about 10% of the country can vote for them
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the tories will obviously win but it won't be a landslide.
This is because, as has been said here, many people have a "vote labour no matter what" attitude.
Also I read several times in the ntdwi thread that certain areas have a Vote Labour or Go to Hell policy. if that is actually true then labour won't lose that many seats
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
Surely a vote against would mean her position would be untenable, and we'd get rid of our very own Ms Adolf?

Well, quite. A smarter politician than Comrade Corbyn (i.e. Krankie) might have promised their support privately and then left Sharia hanging.

I'm still expecting a fair number of MPs to vote against it "abstain" on "principle." The principle being that they've become accustomed to living off the public purse.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
Wonder if there will be more televised debates? i.e. everyone clapping the Scottish Racialists when only about 10% of the country can vote for them


May is currently losing a huge amount of credibility over her refusal to take part in TV debates.

Almost as if the snap election was part of some other master plan, where the realities of an actual election process didn't occur to her.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm still expecting a fair number of MPs to vote against it "abstain" on "principle." The principle being that they've become accustomed to living off the public purse.

Massive Aye vote. Waaaaaaaaaat is going on? They can't all be planning to skip out ahead of the rozzers, surely? Eh?
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
Jewlio Rides Again wrote:
Surely a vote against would mean her position would be untenable, and we'd get rid of our very own Ms Adolf?

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Ms Adolf? There are plenty in Labour who hate Jews too apparently.


Probably, but Labour aren't the ones punishing the (genuine) disabled whilst the pisstakers are getting away with it, are they?

See Dorothy Abbott as a wonderful example.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ms Adolf? There are plenty in Labour who hate Jews too apparently.

Keep up. The Progressive Playbook is to label anyone and everyone who disagrees with you in the slightest way to be literally Hitler. It don't mean nothing.

Assessing the veracity of disability claimants? Next they'll be gassing them and using their skin for lampshades.

Mmmm, spacker-soap.


Anyway, on topic, 5 years of a predominantly authoritarian Big State globalist open borders Tory party, no thanks. I guess the only crumb of comfort I can take from it is that the Black Flag rentamobs will be even more than usually hysterical about the prospect of yet more democracy. Should be some choice looting in the hoods this summer.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prediction update: Tories win by a similar margin to 2015.
Jezza gets his marching orders
Replaced by one of the Millibands (probably David i.e. Blair II)
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:

I live in a safe labour seat so there's no point in voting


Don't be so sure.

They lost Copeland in a by-election earlier this year. Copeland was considered one of the safest labour seats. The new Tory MP has no idea what she's doing, she was only really there to show face.
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 19 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:


You should try sticking to Manchester topics mate. Wink


Wrong side of the Pennines, "mate" Wink
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