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Andy_Pagin
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 21 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Vracktal wrote:
I know that road personally and have done exactly what BVG did there, I can attest that in person it's a lot wider than it looks
Classic case of the camera telling porkies, any filtering I film looks a lot scarier than it really is.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 21 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
Would you pass your test doing that? Pass the popcorn


I filtered on my test and passed. Ok ok the traffic was going the same direction. Man's said to do it. Didn't need telling twice
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 21 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep, pretty much every time I go anywhere in London. Its the only way of actually making any progress, unless you want to sit in bumper to bumper traffic and take 2 hours to cover half a mile. Theres miles of room there anyway, you could sail the Ark Royal along that white line and still not hit the bus!
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 21 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
Would you pass your test doing that? Pass the popcorn


Probably. It is legal...ish.

I dare somebody to try and post the video here later Thumbs Up

I have done the same at BikeSafe day and the copper said it was fine, although a tad aggressive and asked me not to do that again during the day.

My guess is he does not have a problem with that, but if somebody potatoes during BikeSafe there will be a really long form filling Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 21 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would, but with more rev-theatre dahling.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 21 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Val wrote:
M.C wrote:
Would you pass your test doing that? Pass the popcorn


Probably. It is legal...ish.

Good luck with the insurance claim on that one.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 21 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
Val wrote:


Probably. It is legal...ish.

Good luck with the insurance claim on that one.


Pro tip. Don't hit another bike doing the same thing head on.

It's a fucking nightmare.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 21 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
MC, do you ever ride in heavy traffic or filter much?
Once you're doing it day in, day out on the same roads you know where there's space and how to read the traffic. I might not filter like that on a road I don't know (but then again I might), but I don't see what he's doing as excessively risky.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 21 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Vracktal wrote:
I know that road personally and have done exactly what BVG did there, I can attest that in person it's a lot wider than it looks and as long as the other vehicles aren't hogging the white line you can easily get a bike between them, even my heffalump BMW boxer.



Done the same on the same bit of road a few times too.
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 21 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
WimbleHJR wrote:
Yep, most days. Unless I'm tired and don't feel like it


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jnw010 wrote:
MC, do you ever ride in heavy traffic or filter much?
Once you're doing it day in, day out on the same roads you know where there's space and how to read the traffic. I might not filter like that on a road I don't know (but then again I might), but I don't see what he's doing as excessively risky.

I live in London so no.
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Is that all?
you waste my time making me watch that bland shit?
i had to turn the sound down so I didn't have to listen to his mouth wank
but the riding?
meh
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PostPosted: 01:16 - 22 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
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That's what I find so amusing, when I pull up to the same set of lights a few seconds after someone who's riding like a 'hero', and they get increasingly frustrated that they can't shake me. Yet they're going for all the risky gaps so should be making better progress right?


I can only guess your definition of riding like a "hero" (I like the term combat filtering) is very different to mine.

If you are riding to DSA standards and you come up to the lights only a few seconds after the aforementioned "hero" he is not the hero that London needs, or wants... just another slow wobbler getting in everyone elses way.

I suspect this is a case of: anyone faster than me is a lunatic (you) and anyone slower than me is annoying (me). As our respective levels of acceptable risk are obviously poles apart you look at the BVG video and your sphincter tightens whereas I just see another boring moto v logger video...

We all pay our money and take our chances I guess. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 22 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
I watched this a few times but I can't see a problem!?

Oncoming traffic with enough gap to squeeze back in, much safer than no oncoming traffic, as an unexpected u-turn from queuing traffic, or sudden right turn with no signal is unlikely to occur.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 22 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
I always filter. That looks like pretty standard filtering to me. You get the occasional lights flash or hand gestures, but the majority are fine. XSR has stupid wide handlebars that mean I have to be a little more careful than when on sports bikes.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 22 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
I always filter. That looks like pretty standard filtering to me. You get the occasional lights flash or hand gestures, but the majority are fine. XSR has stupid wide handlebars that mean I have to be a little more careful than when on sports bikes.


Overall width : 32.3“ Shocked
Must be odd having a P O L I C E escort while filtering.
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 22 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hong Kong Phooey wrote:


Overall width : 32.3“ Shocked
Must be odd having a P O L I C E escort while filtering.


Are they really that wide!? Shocked

The rest is narrow, why did you do it Yamaha.
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 22 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seemed pretty tame, nothing in that clip I wouldn't do myself.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 22 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
XSR has stupid wide handlebars

When they fall off and you die, I'm sure Paddy will put narrower ones on the salvage.

Y U NO do it now though?
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 22 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
TheDonUK wrote:
M.C wrote:
That's what I find so amusing, when I pull up to the same set of lights a few seconds after someone who's riding like a 'hero', and they get increasingly frustrated that they can't shake me. Yet they're going for all the risky gaps so should be making better progress right?


I can only guess your definition of riding like a "hero" (I like the term combat filtering) is very different to mine.

If you are riding to DSA standards and you come up to the lights only a few seconds after the aforementioned "hero" he is not the hero that London needs, or wants... just another slow wobbler getting in everyone elses way.

I suspect this is a case of: anyone faster than me is a lunatic (you) and anyone slower than me is annoying (me). As our respective levels of acceptable risk are obviously poles apart you look at the BVG video and your sphincter tightens whereas I just see another boring moto v logger video...

We all pay our money and take our chances I guess. Thumbs Up

No, it's more a case of I used to ride like a complete cock, then realised it actually didn't make any difference to my journey time. In London it's more about luck, if you have a tw@ cam' watch back your journey and add up all the time you're stationary at traffic lights... that's what makes the difference.

Hong Kong Phooey wrote:
Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
I always filter. That looks like pretty standard filtering to me. You get the occasional lights flash or hand gestures, but the majority are fine. XSR has stupid wide handlebars that mean I have to be a little more careful than when on sports bikes.


Overall width : 32.3“ Shocked
Must be odd having a P O L I C E escort while filtering.

That's nothing, the stock bars on the MT-03 are 33.9 inches Shocked It was unbearable, I was getting stuck with all the Charlie Boorman wannabes Crying or Very sad (although you can wiggle through with wide bars). Much better with the Renthals I've got on now at 28.9 inches (probably still wide by a lot of peoples standards).
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WD Forte wrote:
Is that all?
you waste my time making me watch that bland shit?
i had to turn the sound down so I didn't have to listen to his mouth wank
but the riding?
meh


^^Exactly this^^

I only got three minutes in before I had to turn that waffle* off.

So when I went back and watched the same three minutes (including the bus at 01.17, regarding which, wtf: there's nothing weird or wrong about that) ... its all pretty ordinary riding, from what I can see, normal comparative easy outer-London conditions.

Bit of a dickwad to be undercutting the 265 bus at 02.16 though, which as we all know, is for pussies. The outside was clear, he could easily have got down there in time before the lights changed.

Got bored after 3 mins, though, and jumped to 9.30 to see if it got more interesting closer into town, as he came in via the A4.

So really, Baron von Video dude ... going up the inside of that C1 bus outside the Brompton Oratory? Amateurish shit riding if I ever saw it. Other than that, fairly normal competent riding along Brompton Rd/Knightsbridge/Piccadilly under surprisingly calm conditions (for that time of day).


*Does he always waffle on like that?



So , in answer to OP question, I've not been riding much lately, due to having a car-based job and not needing the bike to commute. But when I was riding from East to West London on a daily basis, I rode about the same kind of style in the same conditions, in fact probably rode like much more of a gung-ho space-wanker than that (yeah, "rev-theatre" Laughing I like that expression) - but not for machismo, just to get-through-traffic really).
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 22 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's not filtering - that's just standard motorcycle riding. You wanna see filtering try the M6 junction 4-10 (and in reverse) during rush hour squeezing between 2 x 20 tonne artics 4 feet apart. That's scary shit
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Bigvern72 wrote:
That's not filtering - that's just standard motorcycle riding. You wanna see filtering try the M6 junction 4-10 (and in reverse) during rush hour squeezing between 2 x 20 tonne artics 4 feet apart. That's scary shit

? https://youtu.be/wd5qrSy5tpM?t=6s
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No, but then I don't have to commute in London.

If the OP and BVG want to ride like that then that's cool and their choice.
Personally I like a bit of escape space and not to be in tight gaps with lorries and buses.
But that's just me.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 22 Apr 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
No, it's more a case of I used to ride like a complete cock, then realised it actually didn't make any difference to my journey time. In London it's more about luck, if you have a tw@ cam' watch back your journey and add up all the time you're stationary at traffic lights... that's what makes the difference.


I don't like to self-incriminate, also I ride like more of a dick with a Cam on.

I suspect you are right in regards to the luck of certain traffic lights that are 2 minutes or so.

Thing is I actually enjoy filtering as a sub-discipline within motorcycling, so the whole journey time argument is kind of irrelevant to me. It's something I like to do and try and improve on all the time.
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